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AllanGardyne
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:48 am
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a serious flaw in Google's new Google Page Creator. To me, it looks like an open invitation to spammers.
For people who want free web hosting, Google has created a WYSIWYG (what-you-see-is-what-get) Google Page Creator.
To get it, you can go to http://pages.google.com and sign in using your Gmail account.
If you don't have a Gmail account you can get one here:
https://www.google.com/accounts/SmsMailSignup1
(You need a mobile phone. If you don't have a mobile phone, you need to ask for an invitation to Gmail from an existing Gmail user.)
At this stage, each account can have only one site. "We'll soon be offering support for multiple sites," Google says.
I imagine the Page Creator will be popular with newcomer affiliates.
What concerns me is that your Gmail username automatically becomes part of the URL of your site.
So if your Gmail address is "example@Gmail.com", your website will be called http://example.googlepages.com .
It looks to me as though spam robots can now crawl the Internet finding Google Page Creator sites and know with 100% accuracy the email address of the site's owner.
Please tell me I'm wrong, someone.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:50 am
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| Quote: | | Thank you for your interest in Google Page Creator! Due to heavy demand, we are unable to offer new accounts for today. If you'd like to be added to our waiting list, please enter your email address. |
Are they serious?
If Google was some two-bit company you could understand this lack of forward planning. I think it is a case of Google spreading themselves a bit too thin in an attempt to boost their drop in profits and share price!
| Allan Gardyne wrote: |
It looks to me as though spam robots can now crawl the Internet finding Google Page Creator sites and know with 100% accuracy the email address of the site's owner.
Please tell me I'm wrong, someone. |
Another case of being part of the problem!
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:27 pm
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Thank you for your interest in Google Page Creator! Due to heavy demand, we are unable to offer new accounts for today. If you'd like to be added to our waiting list, please enter your email address.
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Are they serious? |
If you follow Google, they do this sort of thing all the time. They did it with Analytics, they did it with Chat, they did it with GMail.
If you check the banner in the upper left, you'll see the word Beta. That's how Google releases stuff. As Beta. Then they based the future development on the responses they get.
As a side effect, you have to put up with the server downtimes, slow responses and "can't signup now, try again later". With Googles reputation (and the fact that all these programs are beta), they can get away with it.
Go check GMail. It is still considered Beta, and it has been around for what... 2 years now?
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 am
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If this is the case then Geocities domains are vulnerable too.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:44 am
Post subject: Re: Google Page Creator invitation to spammers?
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| AllanGardyne wrote: | | What concerns me is that your Gmail username automatically becomes part of the URL of your site. |
| Quote: | | It looks to me as though spam robots can now crawl the Internet finding Google Page Creator sites and know with 100% accuracy the email address of the site's owner. |
| turfy wrote: | | If this is the case then Geocities domains are vulnerable too. |
Yes, this is a common with various "free" hosting deals, including free space provided by ISPs (as opposed to web hosts).
Don't tell me Google are getting a bashing for being successful (again).
Besides, even if free hosted pages can rank well now, there are still various reasons why they aren't a good idea. I think this might be another reason - in this case.
At the end of the day, it is possible to get very cheap hosting and domains are ridiculously good value.
Cheers,
Charlie.
P.S. | Declan OReilly wrote: | | I think it is a case of Google spreading themselves a bit too thin in an attempt to boost their drop in profits and share price! |
Well, if you will insist on letting your company be valued based on which direction a flock of sheep turn next, you deserve all the trouble you get. 
Am I the only one who thought that Google floating always seemed like a clash of philosophies - a betrayal of the spirit. And don't even mention China. 
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:36 pm
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I don't think it's the end of the world. Ultimately the spam industry will be dealt with proactively - not by everyone trying to hide or disguise their email addresses from spambots.
Making your address hard to find doesn't really address the problem of spam and only provides temporary cover for the individuals who take steps to do so. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:23 am
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| Warburton wrote: | | Ultimately the spam industry will be dealt with proactively... |
Perhaps that's Google's goal - it's setting up a honey trap for spammers so it will know exactly who to attack.
I live in hope!
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:40 pm
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| Warburton wrote: | | Ultimately the spam industry will be dealt with proactively... |
It's the "ultimately" bit that's the problem for me. In the meantime...
| Quote: | | Making your address hard to find doesn't really address the problem of spam and only provides temporary cover for the individuals who take steps to do so. |
Hang on a minute, if you hid it altogether it certainly would. Making the address not guessable (let alone downright calculable) is one factor.
| AllanGardyne wrote: | | Perhaps that's Google's goal - it's setting up a honey trap for spammers so it will know exactly who to attack. |
Well I hope they've got plenty of honey...
Seriously, isn't this just another example of the sort of "herd mentality" tool Google loves to "empower" us with, these days.
As with everything, the trick to getting ahead is to do things differently. I didn't get where I am today doing things the way everybody else did, and neither did you (whoever you are).
If the gmail addresses weren't included in the URLs, would the Google Pages be worth shouting about? Apart from spreading the Google brand, I think not.
No doubt some people will be claiming that the pages get picked up quicker, but that isn't really the problem it used to be.
Just my opinion,
Charlie.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:51 am
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I am not sure if this is the case with my experience but I just got an email asking to varify my paypal account (you know the ones) When I mouseover the link it is a google domain.
google.com/url?sa=X&oi=dict&q=http://ool-182c15c9.dyn.optonline.net:82/fraud/login/index.php
Just what the net needs. More opprtunities to soil it.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:04 pm
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| sophist wrote: | I am not sure if this is the case with my experience but I just got an email asking to varify my paypal account (you know the ones) When I mouseover the link it is a google domain.
google.com/url?sa=X&oi=dict&q=http://ool-182c15c9.dyn.optonline.net:82/fraud/login/index.php
Just what the net needs. More opprtunities to soil it. |
The spammer isn't using a Google domain. It's using a feature of google's search engine to redirect you to their own cable modem, making it look like you're going to a Google site.
It's just like if I sent you a link to an "I'm feeling lucky" search for "miserable failure" and made it look like Google was running the White House web page.
This "flaw" in Google has nothing to do with Page Creator. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:23 pm
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Thanks for the clarification. 
Either way it ended up in the garbage.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:11 pm
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| arpitgosai wrote: | | Ok friends , I got message from Google that you are unabled to make pages. |
I doubt if you're quoting Google 100% accurately. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
| Quote: | | What I want to know that I am allowed to put google adsense code into pages or Google itself will put the ads ? |
If you want AdSense ads on your pages, you'll have to place the AdSense code on those pages.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:27 pm
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I got exactly below message from The Google Page Creator Team <pages-noreply@google.com> Mailed-By: google.com
| Code: | Hi there,
Thanks for your interest in Google Page Creator. We appreciate your patience, and we're excited to tell you that we enabled your account today, so you can start making pages now! To get started, head over to http://pages.google.com and sign in with your Gmail password. We haven't opened up Google Page Creator to everybody yet, so you'll see a message on our home page saying that accounts are unavailable ? you can just ignore that.
Google Page Creator is an experiment on Google Labs. Google Labs is where we put projects before they're ready for prime time so that we can start getting feedback from our users. So, please, tell us what you think, what features we should add, what problems you're experiencing, or anything else that can help us make Google Page Creator a better tool for you. We're listening.
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| Quote: | | If you want AdSense ads on your pages, you'll have to place the AdSense code on those pages. |
I know that but what I want to ask that I am allowed to put adsense code into pages or not ?
Or google itself will put their sponsors ads like those put in Gmail ?
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:17 pm
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| arpitgosai wrote: | Ok friends , I got message from Google that you are unabled to make pages.
What I want to know that I am allowed to put google adsense code into pages or Google itself will put the ads ? |
The Google email said enabled, you said unabled. That's the source of confusion.
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