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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:20 am
Post subject: SmartPage TrafficEqualizer its disgusting...
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It is just sickning to see top internet marketers who are suppose to be gaurdians of the this business using modern technology (like SP and TE) to cheat the search engines.
Allan Gardyne is one of the only few (I hope) who actually use real content for search engine rankings, I admire him for that.
He might heavily promote site sell and gets a lot of crap about it, but atleast he doesn't promote any shady ways to cheat the internet marketing game. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:10 pm
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Unless the software or any other tools you use are illegal ,I would say that I would use it if it really helps me to do my work more efficiently. I have TE(traffic equalizer) but if I knew it was an illegal tool to use to boost SE rankings, I wouldn't have purchased it. I wouldn't say that TE is designed to cheat SE system,but rather it's another innovative tool to "challenge" SE system.
I came across with this software when I was reading Rosalind Gardner's news letter. She seemed to be interested in it,but she never endorsed it.
She said she would experiment with it.
I thought that TE was a great tool so I purchased it. The only problem I had with it was that though I watched the tutorial video over and over again, I couldn't make pages on my own. I couldn't find the pages that it showed on tutorials and I just couldn't proceed any further. 
But,the soft designer, Jeff Alderson, has been a great help to me from start to finish. We exchanged mails countless times and I came to the point where I almost gave up and wanted my money back. He then offered me to make pages for me with TE. He gave me zip files and I unzipped them and I tried to upload them to SBI. There were some errors and SBI couldn't upload them. Jeff then made some minor adjustments to the files and sent it back to me again.
And I successfully uploaded them. Whew! 
The pages I'm talking about here are not really content pages,but the ones with many related keyword links. It may depend on a subject and keywords whether TE actually creates content-rich pages.
I questioned about this matter to Jeff. He said it's no problem and it would just work.
Well, he's the creator of TE and he knows it best from his own experiences,so I take his words and just wait and see what happens.
He said that he would make a members only site for TE where you can ask any TE related questions.
I must've been a really pain in the neck to him,but he always responded quickly to my questions /problems. I felt that he cared about his product(s)and customers so much that he would go extra miles to help you to benefit from using his product.
And that's a right attitude for any business.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:58 am
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I would suppose that in the literal sense, any and all traffic building strategies or techniques could be considered in violation of Google policy and therefore illegal.
Even if you were to build a content site the old fashioned way, loaded with inbound links, couldn't it be argued that the only reason you did it was to achieve a higher Google ranking?
It would be helpful if the Google police were to specifically define in exact detail and example what they deem to be illegal. My gut feeling is that just like REAL law enforcement agencies, the Google Chief Constable would make a distinction between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law.
Of course, that's just a guess. 
Best wishes,
James
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:12 am
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I would be interested in knowing how your traffic stats are, and what your PR is, after having the TE pages on your site. It's been almost two weeks, any changes? A little early I know, but if you would be so kind as to report on this every two weeks, it could give us some perspective on this particular strategy.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:18 am
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Debs,
I haven't seen any drastic traffic change,yet since I used TE for my site. I noticed that after I uploaded TE pages to my site,SBI automatically figured when to submit them to SE. Most of my original pages were submitted to SE at the end of OCT, or the first week of NOV. So,I guess it'll take another month or so till Google's spider come and index my pages(if they were accepted). Only then,I would be able to tell the difference. TE owner,Jeff Alderson, said that when he used TE for his site,there was almost no traffic to his site for the first two months,but after Goolgle indexed his site,the traffic to his site exploded.
One good news for me is that finally,yes,finally MS/Inktomi indexed my site at #10. But TE pages may change the rankings of my site later. Hopefully, to the better.
So, by the end of this year, I may be able to see some results.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:43 am
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Hello James.
| code4 wrote: | | Even if you were to build a content site the old fashioned way, loaded with inbound links, couldn't it be argued that the only reason you did it was to achieve a higher Google ranking? |
Yes. Interestingly, I recently read that Google is starting to apply a small penalty to sites that have incoming links with anchor text that is consistently just a little too perfect. Similarly with the exact main keyphrase in the title and heading tags.
People are continually working the system, so Google have to keep changing the rules slightly. It might take more work to exploit off-page factors, but the principle is the same.
| code4 wrote: | | It would be helpful if the Google police were to specifically define in exact detail and example what they deem to be illegal. |
All the best laws are suitably vague. When it comes to enforcement, maybe they like a little freedom of interpretation now and again...
| code4 wrote: | | My gut feeling is that just like REAL law enforcement agencies, the Google Chief Constable would make a distinction between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. |
I'd like to think so, too. Also - in his associated roles of judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one - I dare say he takes "previous convictions" into account before passing sentence.
All the best,
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:17 pm
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| Quote: | | I recently read that Google is starting to apply a small penalty to sites that have incoming links with anchor text that is consistently just a little too perfect. Similarly with the exact main keyphrase in the title and heading tags |
Charlie, I would be interested in knowing where you saw this so I can read it, if openly available. Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:20 pm
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Nice reply, Charlie,
You DO have a point. I suppose the rules are mainly out there to address the FLAGRANT violators. Just like speed limits.
Best to you,
James
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:59 am
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| Debs wrote: | | Quote: | | I recently read that Google is starting to apply a small penalty to sites that have incoming links with anchor text that is consistently just a little too perfect. Similarly with the exact main keyphrase in the title and heading tags |
Charlie, I would be interested in knowing where you saw this so I can read it, if openly available. |
Debs,
Planet Ocean's Nov 2003 monthly update. It's "openly available" to all paid up customers! 
Seriously, I rank Planet Ocean very highly. I've subscribed for years.
In this particular case, it was one of those "we're seeing some evidence of..." type updates, rather than "rush and change all your pages this minute" - which would rarely be a good idea anyway. Still, sounds more than believeable to me. People are definitely "controlling" external linking patterns to a very high degree these days. This would be one way for Google to try and put the brakes on any cases of perceived manipulation.
Hope this helps,
Charlie.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:41 pm
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Thanks  I had a feeling it was Planet Ocean, but just wanted to confirm it. They do offer some great advice and updates. Thanks for pointing it out.
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