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HarB
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:30 am
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| Quote: | | After doing my first project with AIS and using Wordtracker to find the keywords with less than 10 competing sites and low counts, I feel that the results indicate that each of these keywords are the result of a single individual searching and will probably never be searched on again. If you do a search in one months time on the same root word there will probably be a whole different set of low count keywords and the original ones will have gone and never be back. On this basis the AIS won't work. |
This is totally incorrect.
With all due respect to your feelings, they are leading you down a wrong path. To believe that you can sit there and look at some low counts and simply through your intuition draw any kind of conclusions about something as vast and complex as search engine marketing... it's just not right.
Once you get some experience under your belt, get yourself through some hard work, a few disapointments, and a few nice surprises, you will realize the reality of the situation. Not before. Give it maybe, three months of -real- work. You'll see.
As for getting an answer that "disproves your fears"... you will never get it. From anyone. You have to grit your teeth, take action, have faith, see what happens. There's no other way.
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jaycee33
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Allan, If you read my quote carefully you'll see that I wasn't making any complaints about the book in general or any other of the other recommendations of software in the book.
| Quote: | You've read Neil's book, which describes a technique Neil has tested for himself and found to work. In contrast, it sounds as though you've done a little research and provided your own theories.
What are you hoping for? A 100% guarantee that EVERY site based on every little niche will generate useful income? If that's what you're hoping for, you've totally misread the book. |
I was asking for an answer or opinion to the feeling I had that the keywords with low figures for competing sites and low counts could be just the searches by an individual which may not appear again. You didn't answer this. You also said in your email about the book | Quote: | You may be wondering how you can possibly get traffic to dozens
or hundreds of small sites.
The "trick", which Neil explains, is to identify large numbers of
phrases which have a fairly low demand but also have no
competition or very low competition. |
This is what my post was about and as the main thrust of the book is to go for these keywords it is possible therefore that users may be disappointed at the results. It's just a thought Allan, I was hoping for your opinion on it. I wasn't making any attacks or presuming I didn't have to "use my own brain"
Also I don't think I said I was looking for a 100% guarantee for anything. |
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jaycee33
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:45 am
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| Quote: | This is totally incorrect.
With all due respect to your feelings, they are leading you down a wrong path. To believe that you can sit there and look at some low counts and simply through your intuition draw any kind of conclusions about something as vast and complex as search engine marketing... it's just not right.
Once you get some experience under your belt, get yourself through some hard work, a few disapointments, and a few nice surprises, you will realize the reality of the situation. Not before. Give it maybe, three months of -real- work. You'll see. |
Don't be so patronising HarB. Making comments like that, is unpleasant, unhelpful and unwelcome to a forum such as this. I've been working hard in the affiliate area for 2 years and done fairly well. After reading and appreciating Allan's stuff for some time, I thought I 'd give Neil Shearing's ideas a try. |
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Peter,
For parabuilder.. I am not an experienced ArticleBot user so I'll have to get back to you on this going to take the plunge and try it out today or tommorow I think.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:11 pm
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| jaycee33 wrote: |
I was asking for an answer or opinion to the feeling I had that the keywords with low figures for competing sites and low counts could be just the searches by an individual which may not appear again. |
If you targeted extremely low demand keywords, I suppose that could happen in some cases.
However, I don't think this is something you need to worry about. Here's why...
Google has said that half the searches done are totally new searches - never been done before. So if you follow system Neil describes and build a large number of websites containing, in total, a huge number of pages, you're likely to find that you not only receive traffic via the phrases you've targeted, but also via hundreds or thousands of other really obscure phrases you haven't targeted.
The higher quality your site and the more links you get to it, the more likely this is to happen. So that's another good reason to adapt Neil's idea and go for high quality.
I don't believe one-time searches need be a serious concern. If you build pages aiming at them, those pages are still very likely to be found for other obscure phrases.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:30 am
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| ihenman wrote: | Peter,
For parabuilder.. I am not an experienced ArticleBot user so I'll have to get back to you on this going to take the plunge and try it out today or tommorow I think.
I'll post my +'s and negatives |
Thanks, that would be real useful!
From what I gather so far, parabuilder does not really compare with ab. Anyway, I'm off to buy AB as soon as I complete some basic research. I can switch to parabuilder later (if that looks good) and get rid of those monthly fees.
Have fun!
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:11 pm
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| AllanGardyne wrote: | If you targeted extremely low demand keywords, I suppose that could happen in some cases.......
I don't believe one-time searches need be a serious concern. If you build pages aiming at them, those pages are still very likely to be found for other obscure phrases. |
Thanks Allan. In the back of my mind I think this explanation was slowly forming. You have confirmed this, all I wanted to know was what you thought about it. Don't be so quick to jump to a defensive attitude, I have a lot of respect for what you have achieved and for your opinions! |
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:18 pm
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| jaycee33 wrote: | | Don't be so quick to jump to a defensive attitude, I have a lot of respect for what you have achieved and for your opinions! |
Thanks. I'll try. It was the request for an "honest" answer that got me going.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:24 pm
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| AllanGardyne wrote: | | It was the request for an "honest" answer that got me going. |
I understand and I used the term as you would in conversation, didn't mean for it to impugn your honesty. Sorry. |
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:24 pm
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| AllanGardyne wrote: |
The higher quality your site and the more links you get to it, the more likely this is to happen. So that's another good reason to adapt Neil's idea and go for high quality.
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I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to merge Neils idea with Niche Content Packages (as mentioned in the newsletter).
If I already have the content I need then there is really no need to use Neils method. Right??
Can someone enlighten me because I am just not seeing the connection?
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Wow, this post really took off. For some reason I didn't receive auto-notifications, so I had no idea that anyone replied. Thank you all for your insight. So, you have to subscribe to Articlebot, huh? That is disappointing. At this point in time, I simply can't afford the subscription fee.
Has anyone gotten around to trying parabuilder? What were the results? Did the content make sense? |
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| sophist wrote: |
I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to merge Neils idea with Niche Content Packages (as mentioned in the newsletter). |
In essence, the system Neil describes is used to create a large number of pages, each optimized for a different phrase. He describes a way of identifying the phrases to target.
What you choose to put on those pages is up to you. I'm suggesting that you use high quality, useful content.
One way of acquiring a large number of high quality articles for a low price is to subscribe to the service I recommended in the newsletter. You can then rewrite those articles, use them as inspiration for new ideas, expand on them, etc., optimizing each one for a particular phrase.
The details are up to you.
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| WallaceCleaver wrote: | | For some reason I didn't receive auto-notifications, so I had no idea that anyone replied. |
I've replied to that in another section of the message board:
Forum notifications not received?
http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic13371.html
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:41 pm
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| WallaceCleaver wrote: |
Has anyone gotten around to trying parabuilder? What were the results? Did the content make sense? |
I meant to post back about this...
I tried both of these, and am currently using articleBot...It's a better program for now then ParaBuilder...How ever ParaBuilder is looking at making some upgrades that should hopefully put them more @ par with AB.
The usage of an ORIDE list of KW's with AB is the better way to work with Niels book.... How ever if you're solely looking for a re-writer of content PAraBuilder does hte job for you.
For generating a KW specefic range of content AB is the program to buy.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:31 am
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What is an ORIDE list?
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