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Pete
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:21 pm    Post subject: How long does it take to get listed in search engines? Reply with quote

I have tried to submit to as many search engines as possible for free, but I am still not receiving much traffic. Presumably my site has not been added yet.

I am aware this could be due to not being properly search engine optimised, but I'm new to all this, so that is trial and error. I have checked a few search engines such as Google and my site is definately not on there. How long do I hjave to wait before I get added to Google, and other such sites?

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Pete
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gana



Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi pete,
It depends. I would suggest you start getting links from other pages. My site took one month to be indexed and not all pages have been indexed. It is going to take some time before it gets fully indexed. When did you submit your site ? Be patient and work on getting links.
Hope that helps.

To your success,
Gana.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi gana,

Thanks for replying. I submitted it about a month ago to all sorts of free submission sites, and then directly to Yahoo and some others.

I have only had about 80 visits (excluding my own) in that time. I have joined a traffic exchange at http://www.trafficswarm.com/go.cgi?182598. I really don't know how good this is, but it sounds like it could help generate some traffic and its free. My only worry is its traffic for the sake of it, rather that any traffic thats going to get any appreciation from my site or want to click through to the affiliate links.

It is my first website and there are areas where it needs more work (just I need the time to do this!!). But I thought I should try and generate some traffic before I did to much work, only to find that I couldn't get anyone to have a look at it. I've included my URL at the bottom and would be grateful of any feedback. I am aware that some sections are very minimal (I want to work on them when I have time, and not just rush a page here and there!). The bones of it are there though. I just need convincing that people will actually visit it, before I lock myself away and do some substantial work on it (it takes me ages to create a page as I'm still in learning phase)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your freesite url is going to cause you problems. Many SE's, at least the ones you really want to be in, don't like freesite urls with subdomains.

Free for all submissions are a waste of time and energy. Most times they either spam the SE's, ticking them off and getting you rejected, or they post your site on thousands of FFA pages which SE's won't index anyway.

I think you are right about TrafficSwarm, it's traffic, relevant traffic? That's another question.

I strongly suggest you view all the posts you can here, articles by Allan on the main AP site, as well as sign up for a few great newsletters, including Allan's Smile

Archives for Allan's newsletters:
http://www.associateprograms.com/search/newsletter.shtml

Sean is a frequent poster here and offers great insight into SE's and optimization, his site:
http://www.webmasterresources.com

These articles by Allan's assistant, Rupert, are an awesome start:

http://www.associateprograms.com/search/site-build-it.shtml

http://associateprograms.com/search/affiliate-programs.shtml

Hope this helps,
Debs
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Charlie



Joined: 22 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gana wrote:
It depends. I would suggest you start getting links from other pages.

I agree. Although you can submit, Google prefers to find your site itself.

Debs wrote:
Your freesite url is going to cause you problems. Many SE's, at least the ones you really want to be in, don't like freesite urls with subdomains.

That's what I would think, but I read a post from Allan a while ago where he said an old site of his on a free domain was still well ranked and provided some traffic, so maybe there are exceptions.

Even so, considering how cheap domains and hosting are nowadays, it hardly seems worth the chance.

All the best,
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google (and the other major search engine) doesn't care if you are hosted for free. It can be an issue if another web at the same host is competing with you when your adress is 'www.freehost.com/yoursite'. But since it's a subdomain (yoursite.freehost.com), it won't affect you.

The problems with free domains are mainly downtime (very harmful, can kick you out of the index for several weeks) and not been taken seriously by users and directories (and that should be your first step, submitting to directories, but in your case, because of the major directories anti 'pure-affiliate' sites policy, you have the odds against you).

A good site to begin understanding seo is: http://www.seo-tutorial.com
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Charlie



Joined: 22 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fishyking wrote:
The problems with free domains are mainly downtime (very harmful, can kick you out of the index for several weeks) and not been taken seriously by users and directories

Fair point...

It brings us back to the rankings for rankings sake theory. If people are put off clicking by an amateurish-looking domain, or find the site down when they do click, what's the point in striving for good rankings in the first place?

"Branding"? Vanity?

Cheers,
Charlie.
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