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Sherry · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 10

Hi All,

As a 2002 buyer of his e-book, I recently downloaded his updates, but does anyone know if the revised book has to be re-copied in its entirety? I was hoping to be able to do a quick cut and paste in my existing print-out. I also have a question for the forum. I was reading about an affiliate seminar that will be presented in Austrailia this year and one of the features would be an experiment wherein an audience participant would get an opportunity to have a simple website published for him/her that would immediately begin earning money. Is such a thing possible? From information that I've been gathering it seems that it would require at least a few months for this to happen. If by chance that this could occur, what circumstances would make this possible? I have to know.

All the best,
Sherry

Mike Long · Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 84 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA

Hi Sherry!

Thanks for asking about this.

1. As far as I can tell, the bulk of the manual remains unchanged. I think you can print out the 2005 changes, and add it to your existing book, and you should be current. (That's what I've seen from my own research anyway.)

2. Yes, it is possible for a site to start earning income immediately, but the only way I know how to do it is to advertise your site at places like Google Adwords.

I've had some success doing this. Currently, 7 of my 8 sites that are currently live have turned a profit by advertising them on Google Adwords.

So, if they are going to go down this route, then there would be a catch: you have to spend money to make money. If they know what they're doing when it comes to site building, then the site will very likely make money this way.

Of course, they may know something I don't. They may use generators like Instant Buzz or Traffic Swarm instead. You can get traffic quickly that way, but in my experience, the traffic doesn't convert very well.

Hope this helps!
~Mike
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Sherry · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 10

Hi Mike,

Thank you for your informative reply. As a newbie, I think that I'll forgo the instant earning route until I understand fully what's involved. Thanks for the tip concerning the book.

Sincerely,
Sherry

Greg P · Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 74

You know what Mike... I bet Martell is going to start generating traffic instantly, but not using PPC like adwords...etc.

My hunch is that he'll use one of the techinques he promotes, like article distribution, to generate the traffic.

I can tell you from personal experience, I have had my most recent website start earning money within 24 hours of it being published. I did this by writing 1 article, and distributing it to about 30 website publishing sites.

Within 24 hours, I had generated SOME money (not much at all...but some) via adsense. I don't know if you'd consider this "immediate", but it was fast enough for me.

Also, I don't know HOW much money martell is referring to. Maybe $0.05, maybe $500... so I can't speak to that.

But, I'd imagine if one had 5-10 articles written out, and spent all day distributing them to 20-30 sites that publish articles...i'd be making some money right away.

Just a thought... but I think martell will stick to methods that he currently uses and promotes in his book.
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Mike Long · Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 84 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA

Hi Greg,

I absolutely agree with you regarding the PAD technique and its ability to generate traffic for you within a day or two (which is certainly "instant" enough for me!)

I'm not certain, but I think Sherry was referring to a seminar that didn't involve James Martell, which is why I gave the answer I did.

But you're 100% on the money in that I don't think James would go the PPC route to generate instant income to a new site.

I'm profitable with PPC, but you've given me a great reminder about the importance of submitting to a few dozen article directories as well.

Now, if I could just get a good list going of those article sites.... Smile

Thanks again,
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Andrea Thomson · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:55 am Post subject:

Hi!

For Sherry's original question re: comparing the changes to James Martell's original book to the new 2005 revised Affiliate Marketer's Handbook...

You can run a "compare" search using Adobe Acrobat 6.0. Not sure if this is available in the Acrobat Reader version of this software.. here's what you do:

1. Launch Acrobat
2. Pick "Documents" from the main menu, then "Compare Documents" from the drop-down
3. Specify the 2 documents to compare. Use the button marked "Choose" to browse to the location of the docs - note, Acrobat asks for the *older* version first, then the *newer* version next

Specify whether you want to compare visual differences (slower to analyze) or just text changes. This will provide you with a before & after view.

Ready-made websites... didn't hear about these offers till recently. Partner Centric represents a merchant which sells Irish products. Their Affiliate Manager purchased one of my templates and constructed a ready-made affiliate website to promote these products. They will offer the site as a prize - think the draw is shortly after St. Patricks Day (good gimmick Wink

)

I have a link to the site on my website (see www.goldenpinecone.com on the home page) or try Partner Centric. I'm not involved in the contest but thought it was a cool offer.

Hope this helps !

Cheers,

Andrea
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thnkfst · Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Canada

I'm not sure if this questions belongs right here, but since one topic is adwords, I'll go for it..

Does anybody know if there Is there a huge difference between using adwords vs any other PPC out there?

I'm thinking about using PPC's again, but when I visited adwords, I was so turned off by the way I had to modify my ad and the price per click that I took my business elsewhere.
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Debs · Joined: 16 Aug 2003 Posts: 4296 Location: NY

thnkfst

your post belongs in the PPC forum; just because something is mentioned here doesn't mean you should take the thread into another direction.

Debs
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BobsStuff · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

[quote="Greg P"]

I can tell you from personal experience, I have had my most recent website start earning money within 24 hours of it being published. I did this by writing 1 article, and distributing it to about 30 website publishing sites.
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Hi Greg,
I've read the martell material, now with your comment I guess I will have to try submitting a couple articles to a multitude of submision sites.
I am also close to launching a new site and I will have the articles in place ready to publish on the day I put the site up. That will be an interesting experiment.

In the mean time, I have some PAD writing to do in the next day or so.
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Greg P · Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 74

Bob, it's actually pretty amazing how well article distribution works.

If I write 3 quality articles in a day, and send them each to 30 different websites, I will usually get 5-10 unique visitors within 1 day, and once they have been online for about 1-2 weeks, I get about 5 more.

So, 3 articles spread out to 30 sites, will usually get me 10-15 unique visitors a day, within a few weeks.

Now, sometimes this traffic dwindles off, as some of articles lose their prominence within the article site I send them to after time, but, they are still giving me 90 incoming links (3 articles x 30 sites...if all sites publish them and they are found by the SE's)

My new rule is to distribute a minimum of 30 articles to 30 publishing sites for each of my new websites. I will let you know how it goes in a few months...but it should be a success!

Greg
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BobsStuff · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:

Greg,
Good luck with the article publishing. WOW! 30 articles per site to 30 submission sites.

Assuming those are quality articles with great content, at what point would it be better to have those articles on your site generating Google adsense income on a forever continuing basis as opposed to being on article submission sites.

You description sounds as if they get lost after a while and lose their pulling abilty.
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Greg P · Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 74

Bob, I wish I had a perfectly clean answer for you...but I haven't done it long enough yet to really know.

I just find that when the articles are first picked up by the SE's, they bring more traffic at that time, than...say... 6 months later.

Over time, I think there are some of the article submission sites that I submit to that remove articles over time (or at least put them somewhere they are not likely to get much traffic)

However, not all article sites do this, and the articles themselves always produce incoming links, which helps raise SE rankings.

Furthermore, I have had a fair amount of articles picked up by other websites that I DON'T submit to. It seems that a well written article ends up getting published on more sites that it is submitted to, in the long run.

Also, when I gaze into my crystal ball ::: Wink

:::: I see google placing more importance on incoming links that come from pages with content that is similar to the pages they are linking to. A well written, focused article will do just that.

I am beginning to think...that unless you are consistantly getting incoming links from PR 5 + pages, with relatively few other links on the page, that article distribution is the more effective way to get good SE rankings, as well as targeted traffic directly from the article.

Now...most of what I said is an assumption. but...it has seemed to work well so far for me!

Greg

P.S. I don't write my articles though...I pay to get a high quality 500 word article. It really speeds up the process. Otherwise, 30 a month would be a real chore for me!
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