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AllanGardyne
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| MinniePauz wrote: | | I wonder if he got permission from Google to be quoted in the article? Seems like a blatant violation of the rules, doesn't it? |
It certainly does!
I asked Jon about this, and here's his reply:
"Fortune does their homework and asked Google first.
"Google's obviously supportive as it gets more people interested in AdSense. I had a chat with someone from the AdSense team on the phone about what numbers I could share."
This is astounding - totally different from the treatment I've received from AdSense.
I added a few paragraphs to one of Rupert's SBI case studies and said that the site had earned X dollars "from affiliate commissions and AdSense".
Google wrote to me telling me I breaking the terms of agreement. I obviously wasn't. It was a ludicrous complaint because no one reading what I wrote could tell what proportion of the earnings came from AdSense and what proportion came from affiliate commissions.
I didn't want to offend AdSense, so I rewrote the sentence, removing any mention of AdSense.
This is an example of how careful you have to be.
Last time I checked, the AdSense Terms and Conditions said:
"Confidentiality. You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. 'Google Confidential Information' includes without limitation: ... (b) click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to you by Google..."
(I tried to visit the AdSense site to check just now, but I couldn't access the AdSense or AdWords pages.)
Perhaps Google is relaxing its policies slightly.
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Bobby
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| AllanGardyne wrote: | | Perhaps Google is relaxing its policies slightly. |
Allan,
Based on what you posted, it seems as if someone from Fortune contacted Google about interviewing Jon/an AdSense publisher for the article. Then someone from Google talked with Jon by phone about the details of statistics that could be disclosed.
That seems like a rather controlled situation (prior written consent) where Google might allow a bit of information to flow.
I can see why Google would want to be tough concerning the discussion of AdSense stats. There are a lot of people who will take a mile if you give an inch.
| Quote: | | "Google's obviously supportive as it gets more people interested in AdSense... |
Just like a few weeks ago when AdSense introduced the "Tell a Friend" feature, I see this as a positive. Google actively trying to recruit more AdSense publishers tells me there is a more than adequate inventory of ads for publishers.
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yes
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I think one of the 'secrets' of mobiletracker's traffic success was making it a MovableType blog. I first stumbled across the site back in the summer when it was starting out. Every time the site is updated it gets publicized & recorded on the front page of Movabletype.org
Some other blog softwares do similar but I doubt he'd get the same volume of traffic without MT. |
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Fab
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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The site just relaunched. It looks like Jon spend some of his earnings to a designer.  Neat layout.
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Fab
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| yes wrote: | | I think one of the 'secrets' of mobiletracker's traffic success was making it a MovableType blog. |
That might have helped. But I rather think the secret ist the vast amount of pages. Currently are 6.790 pages indexed by Google.
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Bobby
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| yes wrote: | | I think one of the 'secrets' of mobiletracker's traffic success... |
I wonder how much all this discussion of mobiletracker has benefited www.mobiletracker.com as opposed to mobiletracker.net?
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Fab
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I have been there twice by accident 
That was funny. I was on the site and thought -- hm -- I am wrong. I tried the .net address and thought -- hm, wrong? -- no! Relaunched! 
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Bobby
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| Fab wrote: | | I have been there twice by accident |
Here's something interesting.
Take a look at www.mobiletracker.com Notice the layout of the page.
Now - there is a man named Clinton Anderson who trains horses. He promotes a website www.clintonanderson.net which actually just redirects to his actual site.
But, if you try the dotcom version - www.clintonanderson.com - notice how the layout appears to be almost just like the www.mobiletracker.com site.
Is someone registering dotcom versions of dotnet sites and benefiting from the accidental traffic?
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robertb
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They are owned by Domain deluxe.
Those aren't sites, per se, all they are doing is spitting out search results, probably from a pay-per-click search engine.
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Phil Tanny
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Ok, I must be missing something. I just visited Mobiletracker.net and can't find any Adsense ads.
Party over? Or do I need to get my glasses cleaned?
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AllanGardyne
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Looks as though Jon has switched to graphical ads.
On the second page I checked...
mobiletracker.net/archives/cat_nokia.php
...I found a bright, colorful ad with a tiny "Ads by Goooogle" (or however many o's it is) under it.
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Phil Tanny
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Ah, thanks. Actually it's a text ad again as seen from here. The ads must rotate between text and graphic.
And I see them on the home page now, they are so blended in, you really don't see something that looks like an ad. Nice work.
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Bobby
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I wonder how long Google is going to keep all those "ooooo"'s in Google?
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deadlyminds
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It's a different matter altogether posting in blogs, You tend to rely less on keyword research and more on providing useful info in your niche.
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