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Mark
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:48 pm
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I have a website and all the links on the main page to other pages are listed in search engines, but my articles are not. I have and article page with links to all my articles, the page with links to all my articles is listed in search engines but the pages I optimized (articles) are not, and I can tell from my counter that the google bot visits my site frequenlty almost every other day but never seem to list the article pages. Maybe becuase it takes 2 clicks to get to an article from the main page? Please help since these are to pages I optimized for the SE's and there not even being listed
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Debs
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:22 am
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2 clicks from the home page is good so it is unlikely that would be the problem. Different pages get indexed at different times. It would help to know the site the pages are on ... to see if there is a problem with the pages themselves ... as well as when they were submitted. The time frame from submission to crawling, and crawling to indexing in the SE of the pages listed would also help.
SE's have their own little quirks so there are no hard and fast rules on how long it will or will not take for them to be listed. The most important thing to do is double check the pages to be sure they are, in fact, accessible to the spiders.
Hope this helps.
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Charlie
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:30 am
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| Debs wrote: | | 2 clicks from the home page is good so it is unlikely that would be the problem. |
I agree with Debs...
I am one of the many who link from homepage to sitemap to "content" pages, and this has never caused me any problems.
I've a sneaking suspicion something funny might be going on here (your end), if it's happening with all your pages. To quote Debs again...
| Quote: | | The most important thing to do is double check the pages to be sure they are, in fact, accessible to the spiders. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:10 am
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Well its looks like there accessible to the spiders. What I think it is, is maybe that I used the keywords to much. I had wrote some pretty long articles with the keyword in it about 30-60 times. Can SE's penalize you for using the keyword to many times on a page? Maybe this is the problem? And if this is the case whats a reasonable times I should use a keyword or phrase on one page?
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:38 am
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Can SE's penalize you for using the keyword to many times on a page? Maybe this is the problem? And if this is the case whats a reasonable times I should use a keyword or phrase on one page?
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Yes mate, I believe that over use of your keyword triggers a spam filter. Try reducing the density and resubmitting, see what happens.
As to the number of times you can use your keyword, naturally it depends on the length of your page, and probably lots of other factors as well.
I'm sure glad that I use SBI (he said smugly), the AnalyzeIt feature lets me know before my pages are submitted if I've gone over the top with the keyword density 
All the best,
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:05 am
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Hi Mark,
The number of pages indexed depends on time and number of incoming links. I have the same problem and my pages 2 levels deep were indexed and pages 3 and 4 levels were not.
Google may not index all the pages at once unless you have enough back links(quality ones). Of course nothing is fixed with google and so it may vary from time to time. But in general, i suggest you wait. If it can index some of your pages, it will be able to index other pages too, unless you have a robots.txt file specifically denying it. I would suggest you create a robots file to allow all ses to index all pages. And indexing does not depend on on-page factors. You may be penalized with bad rankings, but i think it will index them.
As for your keyword occurences, you can run it through jimtools kda and adjust accordingly.
Hope that helps.
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:29 am
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Hello again, Mark.
| mark wrote: | | Well its looks like there accessible to the spiders. What I think it is, is maybe that I used the keywords to much. I had wrote some pretty long articles with the keyword in it about 30-60 times. Can SE's penalize you for using the keyword to many times on a page? |
Yes, they can penalise you, as Larry pointed out. However, I read (from a highly credible source) recently, that some people are getting good rankings with Google with keyword densities around the 20% mark. (This is pretty high, and may sound a bit odd to a human. It also might change agaon next month!)
| Gana wrote: | | If it can index some of your pages, it will be able to index other pages too, unless you have a robots.txt file specifically denying it. I would suggest you create a robots file to allow all ses to index all pages. |
I agree with Gana. It shouldn't matter it you have no robots.txt file, but sometimes if you don't, the spiders get confused and fail to index properly. I'd always include a robots.txt of some kind, just to be sure.
Hope this helps,
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:40 pm
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| Quote: | Gana:
If it can index some of your pages, it will be able to index other pages too, unless you have a robots.txt file specifically denying it |
There are also other reasons why an SE may not be able to index a page.
1. If the page is orphaned (no incoming internal text links and no external incoming text links) because you forgot to link to it with a text link somewhere. A sitemap helps tremendously here. Remember SE's don't follow image links, including image based navigation bars, image maps, etc.
2. As webmasters we may appreciate that Internet Explorer is a very forgiving browser when it comes to html errors, however, SE's are not. If they find unclosed tags in your <head> section of your page, they are more likely to stop right there, back up and go elsewhere because they may see no body text, and think there is nothing for them to index. The same thing can happen with any coding within the <body> tag but it is usually less severe than unclosed tags and errors in the <head> section.
An easy way to test if you have unclosed tags and errors is to view your page in a gecko based browser such as Mozilla or Netscape. They are very unforgiving ... fixing can be frustrating but you learn there is a problem that needs fixed.
Hope this helps,
Debs
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