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Randy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Alexa Ranking Reply with quote

Any advice on putting the certified Alexa ranking on a page built by SBI?

I used the script available at Amazon.com and the page is not showing my ranking but the ranking of Sitesell.com

Of course the number looks good. Laughing

But it's not even close!

Here is the webpage: http://www.soccer-for-parents.com/build-a-website.html

Thanks!

Randy
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rtdietz



Joined: 02 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:53 pm    Post subject: Looks like its working now... Reply with quote

I just popped over to your site and the Alexa box seems to be working. It states you have a ranking of 331,005 (not bad!).

Just wanted to let you know.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update! After switching to a different computer at home, the number comes up fine.

Must be a cookie issue or something of that sort.

I prefer chocolate myself. Cool

Randy

P.S. Yes, I'm pretty pleased with the ranking considering that it is an average of 3 months and I only had traffic for the last two. (and no googlebot yet)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy, I just had to tell you what a great page you did! That is what I like to see SBI'ers do ... tell THEIR story ... not SBI's LOL

Now, you might want to add a paragraph about "rough" earnings ... you don't have to include actual figures if you don't want to ... you can include % increases ... but let them know they can earn money with a niche site ... not just get great traffic.

I am really impressed! WTG

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Dave Gonzalez



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy

The Site looks great

I need to build a page like that.

Have you recieved any sales from that page?

thanks for the info

Dave Gonzalez
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Charlie



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy - I like your design and preselling style, too.

If you take this approach to all your pages, I think you deserve to do well! Smile

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip and feedback, Debs.

To be quite honest I haven't made much yet on the website. Crying or Very sad

I'm debating whether to start reworking things now or wait for the Google spider and also wait for the Spring season. I just missed the main Fall soccer season. Most leagues get organized in early August.

My CTR actually is pretty decent and I'm starting to wonder if Soccer.com is a liability.

Dave, since the page was created less than 24 hrs ago I can't say that I've had any success with it yet. Smile

I have had about 20 people just click through on the SBI! button on the bottom of my web pages but no sales yet. Putting the graphic on the bottom of almost every page was a "no brainer" in my book and required minimal effort as a starting point.

You have to expect that little effort = little reward so I haven't been banking on any sales from the logo itself. You never know though. SBI! has a longer conversion time.

Randy
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Debs



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy,

I would definately wait for the Google spider ... until you get a decent amount of traffic, you really can't tell what is working and what isn't.

Just focus on building more content, and let the SE's do their thing. Once you see those ranks show up in the SE tracking portion of SBI, then you can make decision about tweaking.

Hope this helps,
Debs
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Charlie



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again.

Debs wrote:
Just focus on building more content, and let the SE's do their thing. Once you see those ranks show up in the SE tracking portion of SBI, then you can make decision about tweaking.

Even then, when it comes to keyword density, I'd be wary of tweaking...

Google, in particular, is fairly liberal when it comes to preferred keyword density - though there is some evidence to suggest that levels as high as 20% have been doing well lately. (Remember also, that linking structures and anchor text for incoming links will be more help in Google than keyword density itself.)

The point is, though, that SE algorithms are fine tuned regularly, so what works best now, might not next month. Bearing this in mind, it might be best to concentrate more on building more content pages with slightly different keyword densities. The more variations (without spamming) you can manage, the more chance you'll have of being near the top for some page in some engine for each different month, as time goes by. Pages will come in and out of fashion, if you like.

That said, remember that no matter how well a page ranks, people might not click through if the description Google gives doesn't light their fire...

Although not an exact science, Google gets it's description from a number of places, including...

DMOZ description
meta tag description
first paragraph on the page
text surrounding first occurrence of search phrase

If the description assigned is poor, you might try working on some or all of the above, to help increase click through.

Secondly, if you are getting traffic, but not making anything from it, is it possible that your copy is appealing more to SEs than human visitors? Never forget, rankings (or for that matter traffic) are little more than vanity, if people don't do what you'd hoped for when they reach your page.

Hope this helps,
Charlie.
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Debs



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Charlie:
The point is, though, that SE algorithms are fine tuned regularly, so what works best now, might not next month. Bearing this in mind, it might be best to concentrate more on building more content pages with slightly different keyword densities. The more variations (without spamming) you can manage, the more chance you'll have of being near the top for some page in some engine for each different month, as time goes by. Pages will come in and out of fashion, if you like.


I agree ... working the ranges of keyword density, and using keyphrase anchor links, within your content pages will stand the test of time that fads never will. As one page drops, you could see one, two, or more, climbing high and bringing in the traffic.

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Charlie:
That said, remember that no matter how well a page ranks, people might not click through if the description Google gives doesn't light their fire...

... If the description assigned is poor, you might try working on some or all of the above, to help increase click through.


I wondered how much traffic I lose because of what Google puts in as a description. So now I check the ranking for the page and keyphrases, review the Excel spreadsheet (noted above) for daily search figures on Google by keyphrase, and see where the leaks might be. Of course, it is all mostly supposition, but once I check these, I can tweak the page a little ... very similar to Charlie's suggestion ... and see what happens.

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Charlie: Secondly, if you are getting traffic, but not making anything from it, is it possible that your copy is appealing more to SEs than human visitors? Never forget, rankings (or for that matter traffic) are little more than vanity, if people don't do what you'd hoped for when they reach your page.


Spot on! And, incidentally what I am working on now with my site Smile getting that MWR a little clearer.

Debs
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