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scott
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:49 pm
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| Quote: | | Which would you use? Personally I avoid search engines that take money for placement and my logs say that users do too. |
If I used one it would be Overature. I've read that Overature results get used by google and Yahoo.
I think the best search engines are the main ones such as Google and Yahoo, but when your starting out, you need to get your name everywhere
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manxman
Joined: 09 Aug 2003
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Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:43 pm
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for my pre-SBI site, the log program I have access to only shows the top so many sources, and only Google (72%), Yahoo (21%) and MSN (7%) show up. Actually, a majority of my sources are listed as direct requests, which I assume are returning visitors, or could they also be links from another related site?
note: I have not bothered to re-submit to any SEs in a couple of years. I have just depended on my Google and Yahoo sources. (just lazy!!)
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Debs
Joined: 16 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:00 pm
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| Quote: | I've read that Overature results get used by google and Yahoo.
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Overture is now owned by Yahoo, and yes Yahoo does use it's paid listing on the Yahoo site.
Google however, does not. Google offers it's own ppc called Adwords.
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Michael Anthony
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:25 pm
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It's worth spending money to get into Yahoo as the listing counts as backlinks in Google which improves your pagerank.
My own recommendation would be to spend 80% of your budget on pay per click but monitor the results carefully and be content with a lower than top 5 result on the words that are expensive. One of my keywords is over $20 per click to be top - I am in postion 28 and still make a profit from my traffic.
It has cost me over ?20,000 to learn this lesson, which is the amount I spent in a month "making me top" on Overture, Espotting, etc. before I realised that less generic terms and lower bids make proper ROI a reality.
Use Overture's keyword suggestion tool to increase your keywords, then bid low to assess the value to your own situation, but make sure that yo have a systm in place which can measure precisley how much each paid for click is making you BEFORE spending the money.
That's what I'd do anyway....... |
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scott
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:12 pm
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Thanks Michael,
I appreciate the feedback!
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