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Sandro
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:51 pm
Post subject: Dynamic title and meta-tags
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Hello,
I need to know if Search Engines view dynamic title and meta-tags as static on the actual page and index the page based on that title and meta-tags. I mean in a PHP page including the variable $ in title, desctiption e keywords. I.E. if in "page A" select "Canada" as variable $country, in a dynamic "page B" called from A, including in title "$country hotels.." what do SE view as title on the page B and how index the page? ("Canada hotels.." if select "Canada" in page A , "Italy hotels" if select "Italy" etc....)?
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robertb
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:46 pm
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To my understanding of PHP, the SE's can't view the executable code, so they won't know that there are variables in the page.
The executable code is done by the server your page resides on, before Google can view it. Google will only see the results of the code's execution.
Does that answer your question? _________________ Robert
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Sandro
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:28 pm
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| Quote: | | ...Google will only see the results of the code's execution |
Thank you Robert. If I have understood well what you say, my dynamic page "B.php" will be indexed as "B.php?country=Canada" with title "Canada hotels...", as "B.php?country=Italy" with title "Italy hotels...", and so on for any value assigned to variable $country by selecting "country" in page "A.php".
Is that what you mean? Am I wrong?
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robertb
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:55 pm
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That's correct.
Now whether or not Google will frown apon this is another issue because of the potential for mass generated content. I've seen other sites create 1000's of pages in the google listings, by simply changing the city and state name on a page. If not already, definitely over time Google's algorithms may pick this up as duplicate content because so much of the pages content is the same.
I'm not saying you're doing this, but it's just another issue to keep in mind. _________________ Robert
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Sandro
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:16 pm
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| Quote: | | Google's algorithms may pick this up as duplicate content.. |
I am going to build pages dynamically generated but with different content each other, so I hope to escape the SE punishments...
I have another question for you related to SEO: by visiting your site I have seen you always make use of dashes to separate the words in the name assigned to your files; how do SE view "cheap-computer-tool-kits.htm" ? I mean is better separate the words with dash, underscore or not separate the words (i.e. cheapcomputertoolkits.htm ) ? How much is important the name of file for SE indexing?
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robertb
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:23 am
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From what I've read, Google can't determine any of the words in
cheapcomputertoolkits.htm
when looking for a keyword in the URL, but it can in
cheap-computer-tool-kits.htm
because all of the words are separated.
I've heard that Yahoo can pick out the first word, so it could recognize the phrase "cheap" in cheapcomputertoolkits.htm but nothing more.
In regards to how much weight Google gives to this, my guess is not a lot, but it couldn't hurt. _________________ Robert
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jjdubb
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:29 am
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If I understand what you are asking, you want to know if google will see what is intended to be on the page or not. Google will see what the user sees. All of the php code runs server side before the page is delivered to the end user. That means that the php code executes and puts the content on the page based on the variables and the user (google spider or someone visiting the page) sees whatever the end product is.
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Sandro
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:11 am
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| Quote: | ...user (google spider or someone visiting the page) sees whatever the end product is.
Is that what your were asking? |
Yes, I knew that for the 'body content' of the page, my doubt was about 'title and meta-tags'.
So, in my example, just one file (B.php) , do you mean will be indexed as pages as values assigned to variable $country, every page with their own title and meta-tags?
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Charlie
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:23 pm
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| Sandro wrote: | Yes, I knew that for the 'body content' of the page, my doubt was about 'title and meta-tags'.
So, in my example, just one file (B.php) , do you mean will be indexed as pages as values assigned to variable $country, every page with their own title and meta-tags? |
There are two ways to create a dynamic page... server side or client side...
1) Client side (such as with Javascript or some kind of syndicated content)
In this case, the script is read after the page is sent to the client browser. Human visitors (provided JS is enabled) will see a different page from the one a SE spider will see. SE spiders do not run JS, though this may change.
What do you are doing to create the page will be viewable in the page source.
2) Server side (such as PHP, CGI)
The page is created by running a script on your server, before it is sent to the client browser or SE spider. The HTML (and for that matter any JS) is written into the page.
What do you are doing to create the page will not be viewable in the page source.
Note: the serach engines will view "B.php?country=Canada" and "B.php?country=Italy" as unique pages.
Hope this helps,
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robertb
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:54 pm
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| Sandro wrote: |
Yes, I knew that for the 'body content' of the page, my doubt was about 'title and meta-tags'. |
Yes, everything on the entire page are read the same, content, title, meta-tags, etc. _________________ Robert
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