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Eugen · **Joined**: 27 May 2004 **Posts**: 217

This is a very long post but please, bear with me because I need help Wink

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Since I?m experiencing real financial problems Crying or Very sad

, I am unable to pay for a domain name and web hosting. But in the last few days I?ve come up with an idea Exclamation

. What if I host my site with a free web host and a sub domain (http://webhost/user or something like that with no ads)? At least temporary. I know that a free web hosting site does not rate as good with SE as a paid web host, but the solution is just temporary.

I know you guys recommend buying at least the domain name, but I don?t have any money- I?m still in school and my parent?s income is very low. Basically, I?m starting from scratch: with a(luckily, medium quality) computer and a very low speed dial up connection.

OK. So, once the site is up and running (of course, with some link exchange and SE tweaking) it starts producing a little income though AdSence and hopefully, affiliate programs, just enough for me to buy a domain (some web hosts accept your domain name from what I?ve heard).

After applying the domain name to the site, I?ll redirect incoming links to the new URL to keep the link popularity and start link exchanging further more.

Once I have my own domain name, I guess the site will have more credibility and start ranking higher in search engines and generate more income Cool

. So, at this point I?ll be able to pay my own web host. Since, I have my own domain, switching the web host wouldn?t be a problem

This was my initial plan, but after reading a newsletter and a few posts on this forum I came up with another idea: to create a mini site to generate a little income to sustain the other site. This way, the major site would be serious from the start without giving me head aces about talking with webmasters to change the links to my site.

I?d like to know what you think about these two ideas. I?d like to hear any comment, good or bad, suggestions, anything, ?cause in the end, I?ll do one of these. I prefer the first idea because I don?t have to build another site, even if it would be a mini. I think the second idea is unpractical or at least harder because it may take 4-5 months to generate money, and I don?t have the certainty I will remain with some of the money after the bank processes the checks. Thinking that I?ll have the money to launch the other site, it will take another 5-6 months to generate income. In total, almost one year. That?s a bit to long but still, better than nothing.

Currently, my site is under construction and it has around 13 pages already built. The final size I don?t think will be bigger than 1-2 MB, so it won?t require a lot of bandwidth at the start and it will do great on a free web host.

Oh men! The post is really huge!
If I sound a bit confusing, sorry. Wink

I really need suggestions on what to do. I?d appreciate if you could help me.

Thanks!

Eugen.

Phil CA · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject:

Hi Eugen,

I understand your situation.

But can you possibly Create some extra income through some different Offline Businesses or part-time jobs.

Starting things the way you are thinking unfortunately will be very difficult.

So, why not put your time into something that can possibly make you some money and build things from there.

Once you save up a little money you can get a domain name for under $6.USD and hosting packages start at $2.99USD monthly and you can keep growing from there. Here's a link to 1and1 that offers that pricing...

http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/InstantWebsite;jsessionid=1D3611BC0D8842B0FE02AF8100C3C9B1.TC61a?__frame=_top
(not an affliate link)

Regarding Offline Businesses...

There are many that can be started that just require hard work. Wink

All the best
Phil

Eugen · **Joined**: 27 May 2004 **Posts**: 217

Thanks Phil.

Ken recommended a website that offered domains for 13 $. And I didn?t know that web hosting can be that cheap. I was thinking at around 15 ? 20 $ a month.
In total, 15 $ for a domain and web hosting for 3 months isn?t much. I can get that money.

Thanks again!

Eugen.

Phil CA · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:

Eugen,

Your welcome. No problem. Smile

Also, make sure you Read and Follow All of Ken's FREE guides before you build. You'll save yourself even more time on what Not to Do. Wink

All the best
Phil

Psiren · **Joined**: 20 Oct 2003 **Posts**: 11 **Location**: USA

Eugen,

Also take a look at Doteasy where you can get 1 year hosting and domain for $25. No banners or popups.[/quote]

Phil Tanny · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:55 am Post subject:

Eugen,

Here's my 2 cents. I agree with the other Phil, get an offline job. If you really want to save money, you need to spend a bit more. I'll explain.

My webhosting account costs $35 per month. For that I get 10 gigs of space. You could put hundreds of 20 page text based sites in that space.

Don't think $20/mo for each site. Think $35/mo for the next 100 sites.

The only other cost is $5-15/year for each new domain you register.

I understand things are tight for you now, but it only takes one shift a month at minimum wage to fund the hosting for all the websites you'll need for a long time. And once you start bringing in some income, you can quit that shift.

I'm not suggesting you go get a big loan, or buy a million ebooks, or that kind of thing. But your liberation is important, give yourself more credit, and think just a bit bigger.

My host is angelnetworkz.com, but there are lots of other hosts that can do this, like the one Phil suggested.

BTW, I've been working online for 10 years, and I just figured this out myself this year. No more $20/mo per domain accounts for me!

Best of luck.
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Eugen · **Joined**: 27 May 2004 **Posts**: 217

Thanks guys! You really provide useful information here.
I read a lot about affiliate programs from Ken?s affiliate master course--this is where I heard of associateprograms.com. I also have SBI action guide and a demo version of MYSS 2002. I don?t know how but since I started reading posts on this forum, I almost forgotten about the books I have.

In the end, seems that my ideas were wrong.

For now I think I?ll go for the 6 $ domain and 2.99 hosting, and grow from there as Phil said.

If I do things right, how long will it take to generate money from the moment I launch the site? II read a post from some one who launched a site in June and it already generates 4 $ a day from adsence. Does this happen usually?

Thanks.

Eugen.

Phil CA · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:

It really depends on the work that you put into your business. I'm sure you'll read lots about it thoughout Allan's site. Wink

Besides the 2 Free courses you mentioned. Make sure you read this Free one too...

http://netwriting.sitesell.com/

All the best
Phil

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Eugen,

Actually many hosting companies are offering free domain names with signup for hosting now. You might want to try one of those companies...

The company I have been with for several years gives a free domain registration with signup and hosting starts at just $7.95/month. I'm not sure if I can post the name here, but you can email me at
info AT midwestmediapartners DOT com
if you are interested and I will give you the info privately. Every year you are with them for hosting they will renew the domain name free too....

Hang in there....Jen

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AllanGardyne · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:39 am Post subject:

SFgal · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

If this proves to be the dumbest post ever at AP, I hope the administrator will remove it ...

But, I wonder if it's unreasonable to develop a site with a sponsor? (Of course, it depends on what the site's about). Provided the sponsor doesn't share in any financial rewards, but essentially pays all the administrative set-up in order to get 'sponsorship' status.

Would a sponsor necessarily mean that affiliates WOULDN't want links?

I thought of this because - bless the folks who encourage you to get an offline job - but I know money's still painfully hard to come by in Romania, Moldova, etc.

IF a sponsorship is not a deal breaker for affiliates, then I can imagine any number of expat companies who might front you the cash (again, depending on what the site's about). Do you have an expat organizations in Tulcea? Any American or English speaking companies? Can you take the train to Bucharest? Perhaps all you have to do is contact the American or British Chamber of Commerce. American embassies have a Commerce Section, specifically to assist in 'connecting' companies locally - naturally, that requires that they cultivate relationships with YOU, too. There's an amazing facility in Budapest (and, of course, you can't travel there, but you can certainly email them).

I hope this is a useful idea, but really, if it's not, I beg for its removal.
Good luck!

Eugen · **Joined**: 27 May 2004 **Posts**: 217

Thanks again for your help!

No, I don?t have many friends with popular sites. They only have personal sites?
I didn?t think that miracles can happen often either, but I had to ask. But what would be a realistic period? 6 months, a year?

SFgal, you?re very true. Money are a serious problem. I don?t think you?re idea is very bad. There are a few hotels around(2,3,4 stars) who don?t even have a site. And the Danube delta is near. Actually, I thought at this possibility, but when I checked at overture, not many people were interested.

I think I?ll ask my uncle for a little financial support. Now, I must make a really interesting site.

Eugen.

Phil CA · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject:

Hi Eugen,

I worked with many family's from Romania when they came to Canada in the 90's. Great people and lots of super relationships. Smile

I hope everything is starting to improve in Romania. And I was just thinking...

Of course you would have to do some keyword phrase research to make sure of profitability etc.

But would building a Mega site covering Romania be something that might be worth considering. Wink

People are Google searching for all kinds of things including vacations, maps, foods, culture, universities, etc. etc.

Lots of Content possibilities to write 1,000's of pages. Wink

Just thought I'd mention that.

All the best
Phil

Eugen · **Joined**: 27 May 2004 **Posts**: 217

Nice suggestion Phil! There was another person on this forum who created a site about Spain, and in was quite interesting. I think I could make a site on this theme. Maybe my next site?

Now I?m building a site. And The theme is ? very competitive. It?s about child toys. But when searching on Google, I haven?t found any real content site. Only stores. So, I thought I could create a content site that could rank high with a little more work. It?s a guide to choosing the best toys. The site has already 12-13 pages. Do you think it could be successful? Should I keep working, or start another site on a less competitive niche?

Eugen.