Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: is google punishing my site?
Hi, My site happygreetings.net used to rank top 10 in many categories, like free baby websites, free baby announcements, but now we are not even in top 100.
My site has own products, and has quite a few content rich pages, not sure what's wrong with my site.
Is google punishing my site? Do I use too many key words or some other reaon?
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject:
I checked out how many reciprocal links you have on your site and it is not as much as some of the other sites that are at the top of Google for those keyphrases you mentioned.
I would try to build your link popularity, which is the amount of links that are pointing back to you. The higher the PR (pagerank) the better quality the link is...therefore the more important your site seems...therefore higher rankings!
How do you check PR? Go and download the Google toolbar and then you will be able to check the PageRank of any site you want...as long as Google as indexed them. The Google Toolbar only works in Internet Explorer, so make sure you have that.
You do have a lot of content, but it is a combination of link popularity and content that will get you at the top...and keep you at the top of the search engines!
A good starting point would be to go to Google's Directory and go to a catagory parrarel to your website theme and try to get reciprocal links back from websites in there.
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Yes, probably. Looking at your home page, it seems as though almost every link uses the word baby in the anchor text. That's quite possibly one of the things that Google looks at to decide if a site is spamming. You aren't spamming but you've probably been hit by a filter.
I'd recommend that you scale back the use of the word baby in your links. For many of the phrases that you are targeting, you won't need it in the anchor text. Just remove the word baby from some of them but keep it in the title of the page that you are linking to.
If you need the word baby in your anchor text, keep it there but if you don't, remove it. It may take a month for this to help but it's worth trying.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject:
Dear Sean.
I think my site is also a victim of a Google filter, so I really appreciate your advice to Wendy.
I used the Scroogle tool to look up my main keyword, and found that I'm #1 not given any filter, but nowhere to be seen in the actual Google listing.
Do you know how effective a Scroogle query is for determinimg whether a filter has been applied? It seems that Google could apply their filters even to Scroogle type queries if they wanted to. Any idea why they choose not to?
I originally thought my site is being filtered because of too many key-phrases appearing in the body of the text. #1 sites for many of my targeted key-phrases only 1 or 2 whole key-phrases. But on the other hand, Allan's cheap-computers-guide.com constantly ranks high for "cheap computers" and has the phrase repeated many times. So I was confused. But now I'll try to reduce keyword repetition in my navigation links as well.
Regards,
Yaron
Last edited by Yaron on Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
I think my site www.drums-and-drum-sets.com is also a victim of a Google filter, so I really appreciate your advice to Wendy.
Not all pages that disappeared were affected by a filter but if all of your internal links included "drums" then it could have happened.
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Do you know how effective a Scroogle query is for determinimg whether a filter has been applied?
I'm not sure - I never used it.
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It seems that Google could apply their filters even to Scroogle type queries if they wanted to. Any idea why they choose not to?
It was probably just a glitch. Scroogle used Google's advanced search function to look for results that didn't include a "nonsense" word (I think). It's possible that Google thought of these advanced searches as different to the normal type so the filtering was different - probably just a glitch though.
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I originally thought my site is being filtered because of too many key-phrases appearing in the body of the text.
Their filtering is based on a range of factors - not just keyword density.
If the changes that you've made don't make any difference then you have probably just been affected by the "new" algorithm. So, keep working on adding content and getting more links. Eventually they'll decide that your site is important again.
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