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kidino
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:52 am
Post subject: Compilation of Hosting Solution for Mini Sites
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Compilation of Hosting Solution for Mini Sites
I was looking around for a hosting solution to build mini sites. One mini site is not enough to create a full-time income. So I was looking around for the best solution that I can find that would also be economical to have numerous of websites (in the future). They must be
- It does NOT have to offer big space and huge bandwidth
My mini sites never used up more that 5MB space and 100MB bandwidth. I think you need a huge bandwidth if you have forum or any certain web application or if you offer downloads. For mini sites, I don't they are important.
- They must show their ADDRESS and PHONE number.
Most web hosting companies now days are resellers. I don't mind working with resellers as long as their good. One thing that turns me off is that most of these reseller web hosts don't show their address. I don't feel that they are honest.
- I looked at reviews from web hosting review sites.
Going to these places can tell a lot of things. Reading the reviews from past or existing customers can tell you about their service
- They must be CHEAP.
I don't have much to spare (and I think many more). So I am looking for crazily cheap solution. Not just reasonable, but cheap!!
After a few hours looking around and writing this thread ... here's the list
- Dayana Host - Personal Account - 10MB at $6/Year.
At $6 per year for a 10MB space and 1GB bandwidth, you can really build a lot of websites a fraction of the cost, about $0.50 per month. They have good reviews at web host review sites. They have their address mentioned and their seems to be very helpful at their forum.
http://www.dayanahost.com
- Dayana Host - Reseller Account - 150MB at $50/Year.
Most reseller account will offer GBs abd GBs of space. I think their 100MB reseller account is a good solution to build mini sites. $49 per would still make it less than $10. And if you have 10 websites, that's about $0.42 per website per month. They also have 250 MB Reseller at $120.
http://www.dayanahost.com
- BestReseller - Reseller Account - 2GB at $10/Month.
BestReseller offers quite a deal with their reseller account. With just $10 a month, you get 2GB space and 15GB bandwidth. They too flash around their address and phone no in a big way. Can't find any reviews on them but their forum looks that they have been very good with customers. 10 websites will give break down the cost to $1 each. And if you have 20, that's $0.50 each.
http://www.bestreseller.com
I guess, these are the only one that I can find. If know any, let me know.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:24 am
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Writing in another addition to the list
- Dinsol.com - Linux Plan 10 at $10/Year ($2 Setup).
Actually I can't find their address on their website. But I see a lot of good reviews. And from those reviews, I understand that this host is from India. If any of you guys have any experience with them, please post them here, OK.
http://www.dinsol.com
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:57 pm
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You don't need to pay for separate hosting for each of your mini-sites.
I have my sites hosted at dr2.net (I'm not affiliated with them, just a happy customer). They allow as many domains as you like to be hosted under the one account (minimum $40/yr for 150Mb and 5Gb/mo). You can also have unlimited subdomains (e.g. blah.domain.com, foo.domain.com, bar.domain.com, etc).
They don't care how many sites or subdomains or email accounts you set up, as long as you stay within your space and bandwidth restrictions. They've been quite reliable, and are very quick to respond to service emails. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:34 am
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| It is a bad idea to host different domains on the same server. If you interlink them, Google penalize them because they have the same IP-number. So this will hurt your link popularity and will cost you more money due to losing sales. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:36 am
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| Learner wrote: | | It is a bad idea to host different domains on the same server. If you interlink them, Google penalize them because they have the same IP-number. So this will hurt your link popularity and will cost you more money due to losing sales. |
In an ideal world, yes, but I have read (yes, Planet Ocean again) that this has become less important lately.
I have a feeling it might depend on who's doing it, and why...
I suspect sites that Google would like to see ranked well might just be treated better that those designed simply with "artificial" external linking structures in mind, when it comes to shared IP C-blocks.
Besides, if you really want to hide common ownership, you will need to use different domain registrars, different registration name and contact info, diverse IPs and make the sites look different.
All the best,
Charlie.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:28 pm
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| Quote: | | It is a bad idea to host different domains on the same server. If you interlink them, Google penalize them because they have the same IP-number. |
Not true. If that were the case it would affect all the sites on a server, linked or not, and not just yours because they all share the IP unless they are paying extra for a unique IP (assuming we're talking about virtual hosting here).
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:19 pm
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I took Learner to mean link popularity regarding sites on very close IPs - virtually hosted or not.
This is the context in which my post is meant to be read. 
Cheers,
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:24 pm
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My experience as a host, web site owner and SEO tells me a close IP or same IP has zero effect.
There'd be a lot more banned or penalized sites than there are if it were true.
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:06 pm
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| Enterprise wrote: | | My experience as a host, web site owner and SEO tells me a close IP or same IP has zero effect. |
Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree, then.
All the best,
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:03 pm
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Actually there is one example I can think of where it would be an issue.
When signing up for an account in which you can host multiple domains it is important to know if the add-on domains after the main domain on the account act as true TLD's or if they are masked.
Masking will get you penalized. Apart from asking the host, who may not always be forthcoming on the issue, the best way to tell if add-on domains are masked is if the site for the add-on resides in a sub-directory (www.domain.com/directory/) of the main account. If it does, the domain pointing to it is masked.
Even so, that is really a function of the masking, not the IP. Its worth mentioning though as there are a lot of hosting plans out there offering multiple domain accounts.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 11:45 am
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| Learner wrote: | | I believe Ken Evoy. |
Blimey, it must be true, then! 
That article touches on what I believe to be the truth of the matter...
It depends who you are and why you are doing it, as much as what you are doing.
The same thing applies with IP delivery (cloaking) and various other so-called black arts of SEO.
Michael Campbell has long advocated scattered IPs for mininets, because of what you are using them for.
Sean Burns once mentioned internet.com (I think) as a good example of close sites being strongly linked without penalty because of the volume and quality of the content.
Cases vary, but these examples fit my theory a little too nicely not to be mentioned.
Feel free to argue the toss, that's what SEO on forums is all about...
All the best,
Charlie.
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:27 pm
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believe ken envoy? Why?
Its crap.
I run over 100 sites from the same host AND the exact same IP address. I interlink the ones that make sense. Never a penalty. Never a problem.
Think about it...linking is linking.
The web is all meshed. No matter whether that comes from domain1 to domain 2 or domain 1 page 2-domain1 page 5.
An intelligent designer who thinks carefully will not need to worry about the ip address issue.
However, if you are paranoid then you will need more than different IP addresses. You will need different registrant info and contact information for each of your domains.
Hopefully, all the first set of "innerlinks" are just to get you going. WIthin a few months those links should be a moot point. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:21 pm
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| Jscott wrote: | | Hopefully, all the first set of "innerlinks" are just to get you going. WIthin a few months those links should be a moot point. |
I suppose a lot depends whether you rely on mininets to jump start things, or as a long term strategy in their own right.
There's a lot to be said for keeping under the radar and moving quickly as only a small player can.
Just a thought,
Charlie.
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