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goodlife4u · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 34

I don't know. I could be wrong and I could be right. I got nothing more to say as far as I am concerned on this topic.
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Voasi · Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 895 Location: California, The OC

robertb · Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1838 Location: Columbus, OH

Personally, I just think he's trying to flash his URL.

Here's an example from Google's own Adsense case studies:
https://www.google.com/adsense/medicalcoding

The site they mention uses Adwords to drive traffic to it. I doubt Google would be against this policy yet publish this example.
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PPCguy · Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

Ok, I fell for these guys well written sales copy and marketing ploy. I got the tools, went through the videos setup my sites. This was 6 months ago.

To be honest, there is a lot they leave out, which they never tellyou. Even when you email their support asking , you either get one worded anwser from someone who either has no clue about adwords or some clueless office assistant.

So afer 4 months I gave up, and went to my traditional methods of working on adsense pages. So as per their sales letter promised I emailed them asking for a refund, I spent $1250 on this outdated stuff.

Guess what Oryah found all sort of excuses how I don't qualify for the refund, blah blah. Oh well I just left it at that.

Guess what now 6 months later they start their email campaing, I start getting emails from them again, pushing the same thing re packaged. I should give it to them, they know how to sell worthless products.
Very Happy

. They are good marketers.

My advice is don't waste your time on this crap. you want to make money on adsense, get few free lancers and spend that money creating niche sites, and you will have long lasting adsense pages.

TomasLoden · Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 22

I bought this 1 year ago and as PPCguy said there is a lot they leave out, which they never tell you. Nothing wrong with the softwares and videos but if you dont know what your doing this can cost you alot of money and time.. Its all about building gazzilions of websites and support sites and blasting them all over the internet. Yes you can make good money from this but i think you need to have som more thn basic adsense marketing skills to make the max from this product to get it all to work..

Now there is a much easier way and i hope its ok to give you a link to some free info that will make you adsense money if you work it and it will only cost you your time and some small bucks to get you started and everyone can do it.. This info is made by warriorforum member TimG, he makes thousands per month from adsense and free SE traffic and this is one of the best 100% FREE info about adsense marketing out there..
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Good luck with your business..
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JoshuaHarris · Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland

..."I may be right, I may be wrong"...

Goodlife4u, that kind of casual "I know it all" approach, which you quickly dispell into ambiguity in a flash when you are confronted by people who DO know what they are talking about, is the most sure-fire way to kill any networking potential before it even gets to the starting block.

I suppose it is rather good that, as far as you are concerned, you have nothing more to add to this argument.

Allow me, please, to educate you.

Learn that yes, you can indeed buy PPC traffic towards your websites containing AdSense code, in an effort to increase page impressions. And hopefully, if your content and website are good, you will enjoy a high CTR, and make some money from this, as a result.

There is NOTHING in Google's ToS to prohibit, or even discourage this.

What you are aiming to do is leverage a system known as Arbitrage, wherein your AdWords PPC costs are lower than the AdSense payouts for a given keyword, or keyword phrase. The profits result from, e.g., a $0.25 PPC cost on a keyword for which the AdSense payout may be $0.50 on a click. Again, this is merely an example to illustrate the idea.

So that is the core concept. Buy low, sell high. Just like stocks. Not an easy system, nor is it cheap (generally), and it is of course very speculative in nature.

I personally would not venture into building a business model around this. Indeed, given Google's highly volatile, and at times erraticly enigmistic positions, the infamous algorithms could change overnight; you could have it all today, only to lose it tomorrow.

AdSense success is definitely not an immediate ROI, and as far as I am concerned, it should merely integrate into your IM business as one of many facets that comprise the complete operation of a successful IM business. Never, ever, ever base your success around one sole revenue stream. Especially when you are involved in any online form of monetisation operations. Diversification, once again and as always, is the more sensible approach.

I personally feel that the difficulty in creating a profitable business of SUSTAINABLE GROWTH based solely around AdSense is in part due to systems such as AdSense Wealth Empire.

Let me explain:

Once upon a time, AdSense was profitable for those publishers providing quality content that was relevant to the searches queried. Folks were happier than a clam in a high tide, and making good $$.

Then came the PLR craze, and people jumped on the bandwagon thinking, "Content is king. Get a website up, slap some AdSense code into the pages, drive traffic, and voilà. Show me the money!".

Then Google woke up to smell the virtual coffe, and we ran into the duplicate content penalties (which I have not seen impact my AdSense earnings - this is a subject of possible debate). All of a sudden, people cried Google AdSense was dead, as Google started to gradually (but very quickly) de-index all the duplicate content sites.

Now, the really odd thing here was that, even in view of this shake-up and supposed apocalyptic AdSense requiem, people like Armand Morin, Frank Kern, John Reese, and many other gothas of the IM community continued to rake in even more money with AdSense.

Why? How was THAT possible?

Could it be that these people with the million subscriber opt-in lists actually really had valuable, original content WORTH reading, which they freshened up fairly consistently? Hmmm... I wonder....

So no, AdSense isn't dead. It's only smarter. Much smarter.

Big, big difference.

And the further we go ahead, the smarter Google becomes. When the big G exploded onto the scene with its proprietary search algorithms which returned amazingly relevant results, it was simply astounding that a search engine could do that so well. And so quickly.

Having built its success around that core function, it is paramount that Google maintain that primal standing by continuing to provide relevant, quality content search results to search queries.

Which is why all these page generator softwares that create sites with scraper content are churning out sites which 1) are hardly getting indexed, and 2) are getting de-indexed as quickly as you can FTP them up to your server.

So why do it, then?

Well, the idea here is to make some revenue from a site before it gets de-indexed from the search engines, all the while throwing up new sites with the same function, albeit with different keywords and keyword related content, with a speed that hopefully offsets the de-indexing, thus staying a half-step ahead of the game.

So yes, you CAN make money from AdSense. And in fairness, plenty of money, too, by following the above method.

At least now, yet and anyway.

But I'll bet my bottom dollar that sooner or later, more than one publisher is going to get banned entirely if they persist in this approach.

I also certainly don't believe it is a cost-effective one, at that. Another forum member rightly mentioned in a thread how much of this kind of work must be outsourced, or steps of the process be delegated to respective teams for actioning, in order to be profitable.

But I also want you to just think about this for a moment: this AdSense spamming of the Net is what is responsible for the continued slaps that Google periodically dishes out to publishers.

Because there's always someone smarter than you (AdSense Publishers), they will temporarily outwit you, only to have the same concept reaffirm itself when you (Google), regain the upper hand.

Folks, AdSense and AdWords are multi-Billion dollar operations for Google, so of course they are not going to do away entirely with these. But they will definitely tweak and refinte their system, making it harder to for publishers to make money in a "dubious" fashion as time goes by. With the end result being, once again, relevant quality search returns will yet again be the bread winners.

Wow. Surprise.

With time, I suspect the whole AdSense page generator software craze, and the frenzy of head waggers who'll eat it up, will subside and die out completely as Google makes it tougher for these sites with scraper content to be profitable.

Gentlemen, life and business are like a boomerang... you have to throw it well, for you'll get back what you throw. Throw it right, and you'll catch in your hand; do it wrongly, and it'll come back to smack you upside the back of your head.

So if you're thinking of making money this way, then by all means, go for it. It actually does work. But know that in the long term, you too are playing a defining part in the demise of "Easy Adsense earnings". Carry on, and you will only jeopardise the possibility for yourself to sustain that money making goose with the golden eggs.

Think about it.

-Joshua Harris

BrookeGrant · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 13

Hi all,
I know these guys, they just came up with a new toolbar (free toolbar by the way) that is dedicated to internet marketing tools worth checking.
It here: http://www.everprofits.com (to my opinion it’s a unique tool because it provides everything an internet marketer needs in one place).

With regards to the question about the AWE I didn't try their package myself, but I have a friend that did and she said they showed exactly how to create the AdSense Empire (as they call it) without having to spend too much. Of course there are costs but there are ways to reduce them and they show how. So far my friend has managed to generate extra $200 each month and covered her costs long ago so... I think their plan is good.

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