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BobsStuff
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:19 am
Post subject: What's So Bad About James Martell
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Ok, I read the forum and was skeptical about James Martell and all his problems. A lot of posts say his book and its process work. So, I bit the bullet and buy the progarm including the BUZZ.
So far I haven't even opened the book, but I'm not impressed with his operation. I received an email with a password and page link for updates. I just bought, supposedly the lastest 2005 version.
OK, I click on the link any way. It takes me to his sales page with no link to any update page.
Yes, I paid for the BUZZ. Did I get a password or way to access it or its archives. NO. Not a thing on accessing it. I emailed him and should get an answer in 24 to 48 hours. For some in here his responses are a lot longer. I hope I get and answer sooner.
Maybe his progam is the best areound, but his customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
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cruthin
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:36 am
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Bob,
re: "....supposedly the latest 2005 version".
Open the pdf and the title page will reveal if you have the 2005 version.
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Jeremy
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Mike Long
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:26 am
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Hi Bob,
I have to say this much.
I purchased the manual October 23, 2002.
Since that time, I've had questions, lost my password to the updates section twice, changed my emaill address on them three times, and much more I'm not even thinking about right now.
He and his small staff have always made things right. Always. Quickly too.
James has had an awful time with his web host over the past 4-6 weeks. He's had to pull every available resource in to focus on getting everything fully operational again.
I'm not making excuses for him. All I know is that I've always received quality customer service from him, and I know he's had a bad run of luck lately.
All I can say is to try and be patient. Even a corporate behemoth like Wal-Mart runs aground on customer service from time to time. We're all human.
He'll fix it. If you somehow slip through the cracks, let the forum know. There are a couple of people here who talk to James directly from time to time and might be able to help you.
Take care,
~Mike
P.S. You bought at an "odd" time. Since May 2002 the updates page has existed to keep readers informed on anything that has changed since the manual was originally written. On Feb 1st, James released the 2005 version, which rolled almost 3 years of updates (previously posted on the website in the "Updates" section) into the new book.
Now the process starts all over. You have the password to the updates page, which will include any new material James finds from this point forward, until the next version is printed. Hope that makes sense.
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BobsStuff
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:42 pm
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OK, next day, I have my password to the BUZZ and an email saying they sent me the wrong address for the UPDATE page. Funny way to "run a railroad"
He and his small staff have always made things right. Always. Quickly too. Mike, you are right FAST fix. A shame they had to fix it in the first place. I'm still happy now.
I've opened the "book" and it is 2005 as promised. I've read about 75 pages into it and am impressed with what I have read so far. I like his ideas on keyword densitiy and new linking stategies. I will try them on page I write in the coming weeks.
I have had a web presence for a few years. I have had google over a year and started to make money with it. Then I subscribed to SBI and used their plug in module system.
I think that SBI is a wonderful way for someone without any techinical experience to go. During SBI's holiday special I bought their 2 for 1 special in addition to my first SBI account. I will give my non technical son one of those sites. I may have my wife complete newbie wife one to develop a site with.
Me personally, I feel frustrated by some of SBI's limitations. I think the James Martell book will be a great addition to my way of thinking on developing my web presense. I' glad I overcame my fear of his problems and went ahead and bought the book.
Don't get me wrong. SBI is my BEST purchase in the last year. It has opened my eyes to possibilities that I knew about but couldn't see. I am very thankful for Ken Evoy and his SiteBuildIt program.
I used Allan as my link to both purchases. Allan is the one who introduced me to making money on Google and it has paid for everything I have purchased so far.
Thank you Allan
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:41 am
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In all fairness, I think James' support team is excellent.
For eg, my PC crashed twice in a year and all my soft copies of the handbook was lost. I emailed their support team with my previous order details and they sent me another download link (on both instances) less than 1 day's turnaround time with no questions asked...
Good work, James.. and send my compliments to your support team (esp Denis..) |
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:48 pm
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| mimonza wrote: | | In all fairness, I think James' support team is excellent. |
I can't argue with you there. When I emailed him, I had an answer within 24 hours. Emailed afternoon or evening and the next mornings email had my problem solved
I have done my first full read through of James manual. I'm impressed with what he has to say. I assume in a relatively short time I will get my money back on the price of the book and then more.
There are a lot of "opinons" about web development. It's interesting to read them all. I have an SBI account -- one opinion. I have James Martell now-- another opion. I subscribed to SEARCHENGINEWATCH and I see Danny has some different ideas......one is he feels meta tags for keywords are no longer used by almost all SE's,or at least all the major one.
I just got Corey Rudl's two notebooks, and 2 CD's. I have only glanced at the material. I'm sure I'll find some more differing opinions.
Niche Sites Confessions is interesting. See the ad at the bottom of forum pages.
I think there is a lot to pulled from each of these "gurus" information. The things is to distill what you read, expericment with each tactict and move on.
My biggest problem is stated in the SBI manual, READY AIM, READY AIM, READY AIM. I keep reading and preparing and getting ready, but am not generating the pages I should be. I know I could create at least on every couple days and I am not. I need to FIRE!
Next phase, start writing daily.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:21 am
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Don't feel badly Bob....
I did READY, AIM, READY, AIM, READY, AIM for almost three years before I finally got the building momentum going. 
It isn't easy, but once you finally do start producing sites that consistently produce income, it's soooo worth it!
~Mike
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:34 am
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Mike,
Thanks for the words of encouragment. I'm sold on the idea of making an online income. I introduced a friend to google adsense and his income zoomed.............I know the average "joe" or "jill" can do it.
Procratination is the enemy. I look forward to overcoming it for the most part.
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code4
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:19 am
Post subject: Is it SBI v. James Martell or...SBI + James Martell?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've noticed that the mention of James Martell seems to bring the mention of SBI. Is that because the strategies of James Martell work well with the SBI concept of making your content PRE Sell? Or is it just coincidence?
And even when SBI is not specifically mentioned, as with Jeremy's comments about James Martell, his (Jeremy's) site sure has the "look and feel" of an SBI site.
Not that I have a beef with SBI. I'm actually a fan of Site Build It.
I guess I'm just wondering how many SBIers are also James Martellers as well...
Best regards,
James
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:08 pm
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Hi James,
I am an SBI'er and have a Martellian site. I haven't, but if I chose to do it, I could easily do a Martellian site with SBI.
Both methods have learnt me a lot about Internet marketing. Money well spent!
Best,
Erwin.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:51 am
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| Quote: | | I did READY, AIM, READY, AIM, READY, AIM for almost three years... |
Hey Mike (et al)
The procrastination topic has been in several conversations today - and this thread reminded me of some good advice on this topic - hope it's not oversimplistic ...
Launch it while you continue working on it.
k - here's what (my friend) meant by this. Because he wasn't suggesting that I launch garbage  This advise assumes you know what you're doing - are following some sort of affiliate method (i.e. James, SBI, both, etc.).
You've built your home & product pages and rather than wait till you've finished writing all your articles.. launch it.
What are you waiting for? Launch it! Let the search engines crawl those 7-10 pages while you continue building the article pages. By the time you're done, hopefully the search engines will have already started to index your site.
I know it's not rocket science - right? But I hear people saying that their site isn't ready yet. Maybe it's procrastination or perfectionism.
No matter - if the first handful of pages are built on a solid foundation and you have your navigation and everything set-up - go for it.
Since this advice was given to me I have felt liberated to "Fire" rather than playing the "Ready, Aim, Ready, Aim" game.
cheers
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:43 am
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Thanks Irwin and Andrea for the replies. So does having a Martellian site make one a Martellianista or a Martellian'er???
The point that both SBI and James Martell offer excellent helpful products is well taken. It also brings up something that marketers sometimes forget...
That there's more than one way to skin a cat. And whether the cat might be product creation, SEO, or putting up an effective site, there's always going to be different--but equally effective--ways to get the job done.
So taking the cue from Andrea...whether it's an full-blown SBI content site, a micro-site, or a 5 page mini-site, the main thing is to Just Do It...
I know that's and old and kind of worn-out phrase, but it sure seems to be timeless. It's kind of hard to believe that that phrase was popularized--if not coined--by an institutional advertiser like NIKE.
Best regards,
James
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:40 am
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| code4 wrote: | | So taking the cue from Andrea...whether it's an full-blown SBI content site, a micro-site, or a 5 page mini-site, the main thing is to Just Do It... |
I completely agree with you code4. I have read so many posts of late with people saying they have information over load and they dont know where to begin. What I keep reminding myself is that it is NOT the tools provided by Ken or James or whichever guru you wish to follow which makes you successful with your online business. Sure, Im sure they definately help you out and speed things up for you, but at the end of the day the motivation and action must come from one self. Your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:10 am
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Hi,
I speak of James Martell and SBI together,
because I discovered SBI first for myself.
SBI taught me about content sites. Before
that I followed the 1 page website gurus,
buying email addresses, I bought Secrets of
the Big Dogs and their FFA pages to gather
email addresses.
These methods I guess can work if you have
the money to invest. I didn't.
Then SBI taught me about keyword focused
content. Before that I never heard of that.
Then I discovered James Martell and the way
his manual was put together helped me to take
action consistently. I see now I gave up too
quick following SBI's action guide, I expected
traffic too quick. I was new and not confident.
SBI works by itself.
Martell works by itself.
SBI/Martell both work together....
Because they have the same principles which
is to create keyword focused content, quality
content, and get related inbound links, write
articles with preselling in mind, ad google adsense,
etc.
Content webmasters may have their slight
differences, but the overall foundation is the same.
Compared with real estate, mail order, import/export,
mlm, retail store, franchise, loan broker, etc., the
overhead is so small for making a website and getting
traffic by creating content, that if your not sure
about a niche or which keywords just go for it.
IMHO no matter what niche you choose if you create
enough content and let the SE's do their thing, your
going to make money.
Just do it! and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
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and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
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and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
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and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
Just do it! and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
Just do it! and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
Just do it! and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
Just do it! and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it,
and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it, and do it....
Jeremy
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