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MakeMoney · **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Posts**: 119

Which of the following lower cost SEO related courses is the best, most current course? Current meaning that it considers google's excessive same back link text penalty and recent changes as to what is considered good keyword density. Would prefer something updated at least monthly.

I'm considering:

Rankings Revealed by Sean Burns
Unfair advantage in the SE's by Planet Ocean
Aaron Wall's SEO Book

Thanks in advance.

Vancouver · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:

If you want something that's updated monthly then Unfair is the one. I think I recall there being something about the same text backlink in the last revision of Unfair but I haven't checked in a while.
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rlray216 · **Joined**: 21 Dec 2004 **Posts**: 192

Unfair Advantage is really good, and Aaron Wall's book is also excellent. If I had to choose between the two, I'd go with Aaron's book, but I'd get both if I could afford it.
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MakeMoney · **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Posts**: 119

Thanks rlray. I've been doing a little research and all three do seem to be well regarded. Wall's seems to be the most heavily updated with planet ocean in second. A little negative I found about Wall's technique:

http://www.google-watch.org/gaming.html

But I guess a maybe a lot of people are doing that.

I'm leaning towards Sean burns manual because I like what he said about keyword density in the older thread and that it should be low. Much stuff I was reading at that time said it should be higher so that suggests to me that he may have solid information. Does he recommend inbound text links with varied text?

I also have a couple of seo related questions. As far as the title metatag and the H1 tag goes, is there a penalty if you make them both exactly the same? Is this addressed in Burns manual or the other manuals?

Should the title of your site and the contents of your h1 tag be written diffently?

My next question is, in the same way that a high percentage of same text inbound links may be punished, can the same problem occur with internal links? How about with linking to the home page with the main keyword of the site in the text of the link on other pages of the site? Can that be a bad thing?

Thanks for any further recommendations and suggestions.

Vancouver · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:

I didn't see anything in that thread which may indicate Aaron Wall employs "black hat" seo. Just because Mr. Brandt's name is being anchor-linked in order to peripherally sell someone else's books doesn't mean, IMO, that the technique is spam because Mr. Brandt objects to the tactic. This is a classic situation where one puts up a billboard on his property next to a K-Mart which reads "Going to K-Mart? Did you know Wal-Mart has lower prices at the store two blocks away?" Having said that, I can certainly sympathize with Mr. Brandt.

At the end of the day, I would choose to buy a book based on the cutting edge techniques that are taught, not whether you consider them to be ethical. I would try to understand the technique first, then make my value judgment as to whether I would employ it.

Cheers.

[Edited by Vancouver after I read rlray's post! Laughing

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rlray216 · **Joined**: 21 Dec 2004 **Posts**: 192

LOL--the Daniel Brandt site is interesting. Here's another site: http://www.google-watch-watch.org/

What I'm most interested in from these articles is what I can learn from them in order to make me more money, although the little battle of wills is amusing.
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robertb · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:

MakeMoney · **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Posts**: 119

I was referring more to generic keywords.

robertb · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:

MakeMoney · **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Posts**: 119

Oh I see. Thanks Robertb.

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bradley · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject:

This seems to be a popular topic, I had just asked a similar question about a week ago. It appears that Sean and Allans books are not only popular but quite good. I like Seans bonus of free email support and his forum. Has anyone had some experiences with that they can share.

Also, has anyone bought both books and what seems to be the differences.

Thanks,

Chris
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MakeMoney · **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Posts**: 119

Just an update.

I decided finally to get Aarons course. Mainly because it is updated very frequently and he does seem to know his stuff. Very generous guy too - all the proceeds are being donated to the tsunami relief. He is also very accessible. He answered my emails literally within 90 seconds. Seems very down to earth and he has some of the best reviews of any seo manual. Seems there is some focus on proper marketing/copywriting technique as well which I guess is important to make the conversion once you get the rank/visitors.

Anyways, I'll see how it goes and let yall know if I liked it.

I still may get the other courses but this is what I will start with.

Thanks everyone for helping me decide.

rlray216 · **Joined**: 21 Dec 2004 **Posts**: 192

Aaron's a cool guy--I've enjoyed my experiences communicating with him. Helpful, friendly, prompt. Good at what he does too--#1 for "seo book" on Google.
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