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vegasbaby · Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 33 Location: Las Vegas

Hello

I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with clikbank? In the last 2 months I've gone from 1 or 2 sales a day to 1 every 3 or 4 days. I've tried using a simple javascript to hide my links but I still haven't seen an increase in my commission.

Also I'm noticing on alot of the ebooks are being returned, most of the time same day. I went to a Clickbank forum and read that Clickbank has a no questions asked policy so saavy consumers can download the ebook and request a refund right away.

I'm starting to wonder if its worth it to continue to advertise clickbank products. Any thoughts or experiences?

Thanks
Liz
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Theo · Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 9

what's the refund % you experience?

john2698 · Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 710

I guess you may just be going through a downturn. This normally happens sometimes. Maybe your traffic is not quite so targeted as it was a few months back or something.
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Bobby · Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 764

warchief · Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 8

u know this is the main drawback of "digital products", someone can download them then asks for his money back and still have it on his PC, this is stealing the product, i dont know what exactly should be done about it, but i think click bank must take action
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wayne · Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 50

I really think part of the reason people are starting to see more refunds,
is because more and more affiliates are demanding a higher commission,
a lot of affiliates just look for the products that pay 75% commission,
and then the vendor raises his price so he can pay the higher
commission and attract affiliates, and many products are just too darn
high priced on Clickbank. Then the affiliates complain when they start
seeing a lot of refunds. There is getting to be too much greed in this
business.

Bobby · Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 764

wayne · Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 50

Bobby,

You are correct that there are a lot of good products on Clickbank
that are not priced too high. I was referring to the products that
are paying 75% commission, most of them are priced too high.
And some affiliates have been commenting on other forums that they
just look for the products that pay 75% commission, there is a trend
developing where a lot of affiliates are demanding higher commissions,
and then the vendor raises his price to attract the affiliates. And then
the affiliates complain when they see high refunds. I would bet that the
products that are paying 75% commission are probably seeing higher
refunds than the ones paying 50% or less. Just saying that sometimes
the higher commission isn't necessarily a good thing.

Also, I do believe Clickbank ads were dominating a lot of the results
in Adwords. I had done a search on a term last week, won't post the
domain here, but on the first five pages 19 of the ads were for the
exact same domain going to the same landing page, just different
affiliates. And most of the remaining ads were for one other Clickbank
vendor, same landing page just different affiliates. So the majority of
the ads on the first five pages were for two vendors.
I realize Clickbank wasn't the only program causing the
problems on ADwords, but from my searches I noticed their ads more
than anything else. But I realize the world is much bigger than just
Clickbank.

Wayne

wayne · Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 50

Bobby,

Also, I do agree with you that the other categories outside of the
internet marketing, get rich, make money categories get very good
results. I've never been able to make much money in the make money
categories, always do better with other products outside of that area.

Wayne

Bobby · Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 764

wayne · Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 50

I should have said I see many more products being introduced into
the marketplace now that are paying 75% commission, rather than
vendors are raising the price on products already in the marketplace.
The past few months I've seen more products being introduced
paying 75% commission than I have ever seen in the past.
I do agree that if Clickbank disappeared tomorrow it won't mean the
end of Adwords. A lot of the ads will be disappearing, along with all of
the ads from other programs which were linking direct to merchant. I
see this as a good thing, and think in the long run it will actually mean
more revenue for Adwords, although in the short term it will probably
mean less. The user doesn't want to see ad after ad all going to the
same merchant site. I have already heard from some people that are
putting up landing pages with just two or three sentences and a banner,
and Google is rejecting these. Now the affiliate will have to add some
useful content for the visitor. It will take some time for Google to get it
all cleaned up, but in the end I think it will be better for everyone. And
this could be a good thing for vendors, if they think on the positive side.
They could begin to make more marketing materials available to their
affiliates, and require their affiliates to sign up with them in order to have
access to these materials, since more and more vendors seem to be
wanting to have information about their affiliates available to them. One
thing I have always liked about Clickbank, is they allow you to link
directly to the order form, and I have always had more success by
hosting the sales letter on my page and linking direct to the order form,
versus linking to the merchant. Of course you would have to have
permission from the merchant to do this, and would want to change
the sales letter some so it doesn't look like an exact duplicate of theirs.
I am promoting a product outside of Clickbank now which lets me link
direct to their order form, and it is working out very well for me.

imgunagetu · Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 1

Affiliates Beware.....Recently a vendor of ClickBank switched his payment method to PayPal. ClickBank was notified of this and said they could do nothing and the best thing to do is stop promoting him. However, this does not help all those who have no idea of this and are paying such places as Google Ads to promote this vendor. As of right now this vendors hoplinks are still active and I see Google Ads for it. All these poor people spending will not see one cent and ClickBank says nothing they can do about it!
This now places ClickBank in a different light. How many in the past, present and future are doing this? How many vendors are we spending advertising dollars on switching payment methods w/o us ever knowing and ClickBank not telling us? Affiliates...email ClickBank and demand a solution to this huge problem.
For the record...the vendor that is now known to have done this is thedatajob with the hoplink id "getloads".

john2698 · Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 710

I am not keen on Clickbank that much at all anyway. Alot of the products contained within Clickbank is ebooks. When you get a sale, they don't email you telling that. I have had two sales now and I keep getting deducated $2 each month for have my money still in my account.

My account is nearly back to $0 and I haven't received payout yet due to the $2 deducations.

They need to sort their ideas out a little more and think more about their affiliates and not theirselves.
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