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kthomas
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:26 pm
Post subject: More answers here for you
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Qustions: Do you host your Doorway Ninja pages as part of your main site? Also, can give a url of what a Doorway Ninja page looks like that is not the sitemap of the website?
Answer: Yes I do. I host Doorway Ninja as part of my sales copy or my main website via sitemap link. But since these pages are bonna fide web pages, in reality it can be on its own. Any how, robot doesn't see the entire site it only see one page at a time.
To view what doorway ninja pages look like, just click on each of the link inside any of the sitemaps.
In reality , door way ninja pages can look like any thing you want. Since each of the owner of these pages created them based on their own chosen web template, their own chosen content and how and where they place them. So it can be anything in essence.
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Let's assume I already have a main site with my real content that is optimized and targeted for my main keywords.
I would then use DN templates to create optimized pages for the 100's or 1000's of kw's that I do not have pages for. This is accomplish by the "mail merge" functionality. Each of these DN pages is optimized for 1 to 3 related kw's of my main site's theme. These DN pages have teaser copy and headlines designed get the vistor to click on a "real link" to the relevant part of my main site site. These DN pages can be part of your main site or hosted at a different site.
Is that correct?
Answer: Yes it is. All of it.
Question: When you say non-traditional route; do you mean outside internet marketing niche? Can you give an example of what you mean?
Answer: You just have to be very creative in order to make really really good money. Non traditional route to me is using whatever tool it takes to make money. Some of the techniques that I use isn't acceptable by these "know-it-all" internet wannabe crowd but I make money nevertheless. I use pay-per-lead and the way that I use them ... very nontraditional and very creative. I'll write an ebook about this when my sales reach million of dollars or more threshold. Any thing less won't do.
I also apply online venture to off line businesses. Now this requires some start up capital. You have to have money to do this one. This idea is so creative that I am certain once someone grabs hold of what I do they will want to copy cat it.
It's very exciting place to be ... when you're on your way. But before that, trust me .... all trials and errors.
I am sorry I can't give you any more details .... not here in the public forum.
Also few words about bulding your list. When your list doens't make money for you, drop it. However to stick by your list through bad times and good times is required before it reaches maturity. You just have to decide which list you can afford to stick by and which you can't.
I recently add subscriptions service to one of my lists and although I spent most of my online career (more than a year now) to write killing and authentic reviews for them, risking my own JV with some of the very bignames I happend to butt head to and thousands have benefit from my reviews. At the time that I ask for payments 99 percent of people on my list drop out. Thus is the fact of life.
But the one percent remains will sudenly get everything from me because they prove to me that they want to have a dialog with me in a give and take relationship.
What you need to do is to investigate and open your "mind" to making money and using all of the tools at your disposal. If cloaking your pages is what needed to do, do it. I would investigate any and all traffic tools come across your desk because there are only two things that important in this business.
1- traffic
2- sales copy
I would not spend money to buy sales copy tools -- to write the best sales copy takes time and a lot of practice. You also will need the ability to be one with your subject. This ability is born and not made. But you can substitute that with diligent ...
What I do is to do what my teacher Maria Veloso told me. Take a sales copy that I like and sit down and write it out in long hand. And keep doing it until you can be one with the writer ... meaning you can write w/o looking at the sales copy any more.
I am working on a tool right now and this tool will help you to write sales copy in long hand. No such tool is offered right now on any internet market. As all of my tools, doorway ninja included, I wrote them for myself and offer to the public to help out.
Although I want to sell more of my software tools, the time will come for that ... as of right now, I rather spend time using my own tools to make my own money for me via affiliate marketing and sell my tools later. Money talks and what can be more convincing than my income statement.
That's it!
Have a good day,
Kim Thomas |
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horusprim
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:12 pm
Post subject: Re: More answers here for you
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| Quote: | Question: When you say non-traditional route; do you mean outside internet marketing niche? Can you give an example of what you mean?
Answer: You just have to be very creative in order to make really really good money. Non traditional route to me is using whatever tool it takes to make money. Some of the techniques that I use isn't acceptable by these "know-it-all" internet wannabe crowd but I make money nevertheless. |
Are you talking about techniques that might be labled as spam? Personally, I am comfortable with approaching the line but never crossing it.
| Quote: | | I use pay-per-lead and the way that I use them ... very nontraditional and very creative. |
Are you using PPL as an affiliate or a merchant.
| Quote: | | I'll write an ebook about this when my sales reach million of dollars or more threshold. Any thing less won't do. |
Ist that because the technique becomes less effective when more people use it?
| Quote: | | I also apply online venture to off line businesses. Now this requires some start up capital. You have to have money to do this one. This idea is so creative that I am certain once someone grabs hold of what I do they will want to copy cat it. |
I guess it is best to start online where overhead is low; then go offline.
| Quote: | It's very exciting place to be ... when you're on your way. But before that, trust me .... all trials and errors.
I am sorry I can't give you any more details .... not here in the public forum. |
Are you implying that you would give more details if we were not in a public forum? 
| Quote: | I recently add subscriptions service to one of my lists and although I spent most of my online career (more than a year now) to write killing and authentic reviews for them, risking my own JV with some of the very bignames I happend to butt head to and thousands have benefit from my reviews. At the time that I ask for payments 99 percent of people on my list drop out. Thus is the fact of life.
But the one percent remains will sudenly get everything from me because they prove to me that they want to have a dialog with me in a give and take relationship.[/ |
I'm sorry to here that. I have a theory about why so many people dropped out of your list. I think the availiblity of so much "free" info combined with the common internet marketing ploy of giving free stuff away has conditioned the IM community to not value the ability to leverage their resources.
For example, several weeks ago I asked on various forums for opinions on a specific SEO course. Some people answered "why spend money when everything about SEO is free online?"
I suposed this is true to a certain extent; but how long would it take me to wade through all that info. Plus figure out what is the right way. IMHO, it makes far more sense to LEVERAGE my time by buying the product of someone who did all the SEO research already.
| Quote: | | What you need to do is to investigate and open your "mind" to making money and using all of the tools at your disposal. If cloaking your pages is what needed to do, do it. I would investigate any and all traffic tools come across your desk because there are only two things that important in this business. |
Thanks but no thanks. Using cloaking is a line I do not want to cross. |
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