Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 5:54 am Post subject: content stealing?
i was just wondering... can we just steal the content from other people's site and can we just copy n paste it to our sites?? ofcourse, we can do a bit of editing in it. are there any ways to prevent people from stop doing that?? or are there any harmful effects for the person who does this??
i m looking forward to get some helpful info about all this
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 1126 Location: London, England
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:29 am Post subject:
Hi niz85,
This question has come up before in this forum, have a browse around and you will find some very comprehensive answers.
As to whether you can "steal" content . NO Harmful effects, yes all web content is subject to copyright.
But I guess that you don't really mean steal whole articles. Very few of us are capable of producing content that is truly original, unless it is purely from the imagination.
Use other peoples content to gather facts, to get ideas, to get inspiration. Don't copy and paste whole paragraphs, don't get all you ideas from just one site. Use other sources apart from the web if you can (books, newspapers).
Write in your own style, put "yourself" into it, even if you are basically saying the same things as a thousand others.
Use other peoples content to gather facts, to get ideas, to get inspiration. Don't copy and paste whole paragraphs, don't get all you ideas from just one site. Use other sources apart from the web if you can (books, newspapers).
There is a word for "Content Stealing". It's called "Plagiarism". Sometimes, it's even call "Piracy".
Whatever you want to call it, IT IS THEFT. Don't do it.
We have been in a legal battle with an author for the past 10 months over some words she innocently STOLE from one of my articles.
Because she stole them, that's theft - and theft of words is still illegal as I own the copyright to those original words.
Our solicitor is making lots of money from this case. I'm suing for quite large amounts of 'damage' money - and the author who 'borrowed' my article is in serious trouble.
Moral of this story: Don't copy anyone's words. Ever.
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 1126 Location: London, England
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:29 am Post subject:
Hi Lea,
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Our solicitor is making lots of money from this case.
They always do!
This ties in nicely with several other threads in this forum. If you don't mind my asking, when you say " some words" do you mean that literally? Like a single sentence? Or do you mean whole paragraphs of content?
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Moral of this story: Don't copy anyone's words. Ever.
If you don't mind my asking, when you say " some words" do you mean that literally? Like a single sentence? Or do you mean whole paragraphs of content?
I think it's generally acceptable to quote as much as a paragraph (and maybe more) without getting into trouble, as long as the quotation is properly acknowledged and who wrote it and where it originated are clearly stated.
Basically, the longer the extract, the wiser it is to ask permission first.
All the best,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:27 am Post subject: Plagarism is totally uncool!
Paraphrasing-plagarism-whatever you want to call it is totally uncool! Even if you don't get caught in a legal battle - ITS STILL BAD KARMA! If you don't have any original content to put on your website then do a website that will only have content on it that you do know. Do a website about your passion or at least some area of your life that you've learned something from and forget doing something that is merely a re-hash of what everyone else is doing. Their is my two cents....
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Plagarism is totally uncool!
Stephen wrote:
Do a website about your passion or at least some area of your life that you've learned something from and forget doing something that is merely a re-hash of what everyone else is doing. Their is my two cents....
Definitely.
But if you can quote (and acknowledge) some useful complementary content, there's a good chance that the "quotee" will actually thank you for it - or the extra traffic you give him, whether via a clicked link or a simple retype.
Cheers,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
If you don't mind my asking, when you say " some words" do you mean that literally? Like a single sentence? Or do you mean whole paragraphs of content?
Basically, she re-wrote a large amount of an article I had published a year prior. Most of the words were changed to other words that mean the same thing.
BUT there were entire paragraphs where nothing had been changed at all. The format of the article was identical. Then she put her name at the top as if she was the author.
As a professional author, I can't afford to have my work stolen. I make my living from my words. So I attacked her with a solicitor
And (for copyright reasons) in every article, I always include one UNIQUELY worded sentence. This way, I can do a simple search on Google for THAT sentence. If it shows up anywhere except my article, then that's theft. That's how I found it.
Basically, she re-wrote a large amount of an article I had published a year prior. Most of the words were changed to other words that mean the same thing.
BUT there were entire paragraphs where nothing had been changed at all. The format of the article was identical. Then she put her name at the top as if she was the author.
This sounds "more than unreasonable", if you ask me. I don't blame you for taking action.
Cheers,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: Can I ask a quick question?
Hi everyone,
Sorry if I am asking a question which has already been answered, but I'm going to ask it anyways...
I'd like to have a website ( which will probably be like a million others ) which is basically helping people getting onto the internet and earning money, in the many different ways that there are.
The content would be about many different aspects of marketing, and hopefully it wouldn't be a mish mash of lots of different things, but it is kind of got a little bit of everything.
Now, as my inbox is filling up with lots of different courses to do with the subject, I was thinking of posting the contents onto the intended website, but would I be right in saying that if I tell the authors of my intentions and giving them the credit for said articles there wouldn't be a problem with that?
I'd also, like to ask people in various forums if they would like to add content to the website on given subjects which they would like the credit for?
Content is everything and being a newbie it's the only way that I would be able to get the content that I need. ( Someone gave me a tip about having pages for a website with adsense/ or is it adword advertising ) If I can get the traffic I might be able to earn my dollars and cents.
Every little bit helps, but essentially, I would like to get the content but I don't want to be shot down in flames before I start.
Perhaps I should ask, is there a need for a site like the one that I am intending? I'd like to help people as well and if I can get something like this off the ground it might be the start I'm after.
Thanks for reading my post and I apologise if I have asked a question or made comments that have already been offered.
Brian
United Kingdom. _________________ Never ashamed to ask for help !
Specifically, when it comes to posting articles, portions of newsletters, or items written by others, you need to get consent. It's one thing to "excerpt" a small portion, giving credit where credit is due, it's quite another to just copy without consent, even if you give credit.
One of the most important things, in my mind, about marketing on the internet is credibility. So I will ask you one question, how credible do you feel helping others to earn online, when your post indicates you haven't done it yourself?
You might want to rethink you strategy, and consider doing a site about what you really know, not just what others tell you. Then you can bring your own personal experience, and enthusiasm to the subject, which builds your own credibility.
Just a thought.
Debs _________________ Learn how to turn keyphrases into quality, well-targeted articles your visitors and SE's will love with Gary Antosh's new ebook "Web Content Made Easy!"
I completely agree with what Debs said. When it comes to IM, even if you did have "credibility", I still don't think a content site would be the way to go. The competition is intense and the tricks dirty.
The only practical way I know to break quickly into the IM field, is to...
1. Create (or have created) a unique and sellable product (and build in a way to maintain email content).
2. Write a strong sales letter - and make sure you test it.
3. Create an extremely generous lifetime commissions affiliate program that Allan and the other first level promoters will love.
4. Approach these super affiliates personally but professionally.
5. Use email addresses to promote further products to your highly responsive customer list.
Sounds easy, but again the competition is fierce. Unless you really stand out in a positive way, you will struggle to get off the ground.
Sorry if this sounds a bit negative, but you will need excellence and ambition in abundance. If you have these, there is nothing to stop you.
Hope this helps,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
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