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vorapolpanya
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:21 pm
Post subject: How to get more than 500 visitors/day?
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hello all,
apart from PPC and organic SEO ( still waiting for the result ). I would love to hear from all of you about the sucess tactics/strategies to get more 500 visitors/day on top of Pay-Per-Click.
My assumption is 1% conversion. so i would earn more 5 sales/day.
giving some free related stuffs certainly helps. Aside from these ideas,
I appreciate all inputs. i perhaps miss some importants key strategires since i am not getting 500 visitors /day.
regards,
jim
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I'm right around 500 visitors/day on average with my main content site, and it's less than a year old, so I guess I'm doing pretty well.
For me, the key has been content, content, content. The saying "content is king" has worked for me. (I should note that I was well into building a content site just for its own sake well before the thought of making money from it even crossed my mind, so that's sort of an exception rather than the rule.) But what's specifically worked for me is that I have so many different pages with lots of original picture captions and everything... not much of it is keyword-optimized, I just write what seems interesting or appropriate for its purpose.
The end result is that I get a lot of traffic from search engines for keywords that nobody would EVER, ever, ever guess to optimize for. They're low-demand, but also low-competition, and there are millions of them.
In November, I got about 10,000 new visitors from search engines. My top keyphrases were "pictures of trout" with 161 and "desktop backgrounds" with 160. The rest came from almost eight thousand other phrases, the vast majority of which drew only one hit. Here's an example of one that gave me two hits: "photo of larvae of the mayfly genus stenacron." Phrases like that, things you'd never deliberately optimize for, bring me the vast majority of my new traffic. (A slim majority of my total traffic, however, is direct request--I guess people like it and keep coming back!)
I'm not suggesting that this is the only way to draw traffic. Link building, optimizing a few pages for important keywords, yadda yadda yadda, that's all important too and you can read about it everywhere. But providing so much content that you score high for thousands and thousands of once-a-month keywords is a really good idea too. It can't be just fluff... it's great how they reward good content.
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I am at 30 visitors per day and running for one year. The site is about travel and aviation. It is heavy with photography to make it unique. Trafic is slowly rising but adsense is dropping out on me because of php. Very difficult to have good ads with php pages. But I am just making enough to pay my hosting.
My Amazone is doing nothing. I get clicks but no sales.
Happy though, is great fun 
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Andre - What sort of PHP problems are you having with AdSense? All my sites use PHP, with through TextPattern, phpBB forums or home-grown PHP sites, and I have AdSense displaying fine on those pages.
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Charlie
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:47 pm
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| andre_gwynt wrote: | | It is heavy with photography to make it unique. Trafic is slowly rising but adsense is dropping out on me because of php. Very difficult to have good ads with php pages. |
I'm pretty certain PHP isn't the culprit...
Remember that the spiders only get to see your site "clientside" (like a simple browser). They have no way of knowing that your site has been built using PHP other than the .php suffix in the filename.
The main Google spiders have long since stopped differentiating against .php pages in the SERPS (if indeed they ever did), and I'm 99% sure the Adsense spider doesn't care whether a page is .html, .php (or .shtml for that matter).
Plenty of other people get great Adsense results on PHP pages.
When you say your site is "heavy with photography", remember that the Adsense algo is based on good old on-page SEO. Page title, headlines and text. Try making some changes here. More text towards the start of the page?
| Quote: | | My Amazone is doing nothing. I get clicks but no sales. |
I remember Allan G once remarking how he monitored clickthroughs of Amazon links to see what his visitors were interested in...
Perhaps you could do this yourself, to help determine what new pages to add, or modifications to make.
Secondly, remember that these links are competing with Adsense for attention. Perhaps you can play them down, whilst still playing by Google's Adsense rules.
Hope this helps,
Charlie.
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Thanks Chrisopher,
I am using the php script from Wordpress. Excelent way to post my articles and add photographs from where ever I am. The site is about traveling and I try to keep it up to date from the road. I travel 40% of my working life.
The point is that I get a lot of non-paying ads on the first load. When I reload it seems to have understood what the page is about and then it does load ads.
There are category's and archives for the postings articles. If you click them then the ads are ok. When you start with only the domein name, it loads the last five articles and these can have little to do with each. This causes adsense to show non-paying ads?
It is not just a static page that can be easily optimize..
Or am I missing something?
I have worked around the issue by creating an index.html that DOES show ads on the first load. Not pretty but I miss 80% of my potential if there are no ads on the first load....
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Charlie
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:28 am
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| andre_gwynt wrote: | | The point is that I get a lot of non-paying ads on the first load. When I reload it seems to have understood what the page is about and then it does load ads. |
| Quote: | | I have worked around the issue by creating an index.html that DOES show ads on the first load. Not pretty but I miss 80% of my potential if there are no ads on the first load.... |
I just took a quick look at your site for the first time - the homepage and a few others (including the "airport stories" and camera reviews).
Despite the URLs, relevant Adsense ads showed up for me - both as a visitor and with my "armchair analyst" hat on.
Cheers,
Charlie.
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| andre_gwynt wrote: |
The point is that I get a lot of non-paying ads on the first load. When I reload it seems to have understood what the page is about and then it does load ads.
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Andre,
I'm also running photography website, and my experience is that there are not enough ads for the whole 24hrs/day. So sometimes I do have ads, sometimes not. And it has nothing to do with the wordpress - lot of people are using it along with adsense.
Another thing to consider - with just 30visitors/day, it is worth it to run adsense yet? You will not make much, and having ads on your page may discourage other webmasters to link to your site.
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DutchGuy
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:33 am
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Hi Andr?
I know there is a way to make your pages SE friendly with Wordpress. I think you would receive much more traffic and get better targeted ads when you use the SE friendly URL's.
Here's a link that explains more:
http://wordpress.org/support/3/14424
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:49 am
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Andr?:
I know you did not ask for a site review, but have you considered changing your index page? Just a thought from an average surfer.
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john2698
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| andre_gwynt wrote: | I am at 30 visitors per day and running for one year. The site is about travel and aviation. It is heavy with photography to make it unique. Trafic is slowly rising but adsense is dropping out on me because of php. Very difficult to have good ads with php pages. But I am just making enough to pay my hosting.
My Amazone is doing nothing. I get clicks but no sales.
Happy though, is great fun
Andr?
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I am using php accrossed most of my site and I'm receiving no problems. There are also alot of other sites accross the Web that are built using PHP and they also get no problems with the Adsense ads.
Have you tried making your pages SE friendly using Mod Rewrite and .htaccess.
There are many tutorials online.
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i only can get 400+ vis per day
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john2698
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Hi,
Are you advertising/promoting your site often. This is a good idea as if you don't advertise/promote it then no body will know about it.
One way of helping yourself get more visitors is by adding your website url to your forums signature. I mention this as I noticed you have not placed any url in this forums signature.
| fung1990 wrote: | i only can get 400+ vis per day
when you want please PM me! |
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I only get around 200 visitors a day. 
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| djbj597922 wrote: | | I only get around 200 visitors a day. |
Remember, traffic numbers are just half (a third of?) the story...
How targeted they are, and what you do with them when they arrive are at least as important.
There's plenty of talk on here about attracting more traffic and keywords to optimise for, but if you let everyone off the hook when they do arrive, what's the point of it all?
Think of ways to steer people to income-generating pages (irrespective of where they land) and restrict the choices on any transit pages to avoid "natural wastage" on the way.
Think of a subset of end actions you'd like each visitor to choose from and then present them with a limited number of relevant options that lets them find the action page most appropriate to them.
Resist the temptation to distract people from the true path.
Just a thought,
Charlie.
P.S. I'd love 200 unique visitors a day to some of my sites - provided I could maintain the conversion rate. Historically, I've found that the lowest traffic flows often convert best of all - usually because they are the most targeted.
Look at where your visitors are coming from, and make sure you are writing for who is really turning up, as opposed to who is supposed to turn up.
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