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Post Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:53 am
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Just have my results on an Alexa ranking experiment.

http://www.databasedesign-resource.com/alexa-ranking.html

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Fascinating. I must run similar experiment with my soon-to-be-launched site. That will be a nice clean table without any links etc. I will tell you my numbers in... future.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:49 pm
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Are you saying the MAIN reason for your favourable Alexa results is having your site as your default homepage?
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:01 pm
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I'm asking YOU Shocked - or anybody who can elaborate on the results
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:52 am
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I think it's fairly accurate if you get in the top 10,000, not the top 100,000.

I don't have it installed on my computer.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:14 am
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Hi guys,

Allan, that narrows it significantly. I am just trying to figure out what's behind this mechanism...

My experiment page has been up for 20 hours now, and I have updated it, because there has been a large jump upwards in daily and 1wk Avg. since it was published. I have also added a poll to actually know if visitors have the toolbar installed. Will be interesting to know, and I will be publishing it when I have enough results in

http://www.databasedesign-resource.com/alexa-ranking.html

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Allan, come to think of it: If it is fairly accurate for the top 10.000, is it correct to say that it is fairly inaccurate for 16.5 million - 10.000 ?
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:28 pm
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Allan, come to think of it: If it is fairly accurate for the top 10.000, is it correct to say that it is fairly inaccurate for 16.5 million - 10.000 ?

Maybe. I'm not an expert on Alexa.

If I want stats, I believe in looking at my own traffic stats. As far as I'm concerned they're the stats that matter.

And I'm much more interested in sales figures than traffic stats.

And even more interesting are checks actually received and banked!
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:52 pm
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So wisely said Exclamation

This ranking game is peculiar. Rolling Eyes
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:57 pm
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Dear Alf,
I also have similar experience. I had installed Alexa toolbar at home and office. I used to check the alexa ranking regularly when I started website in Oct 2003. In March 2004, my rank was approx. 149000. Then I removed the alexa toolbar and my rank dropped to 253000. I am sure about this process. If you install alexa and visit your site, you will move up in alexa ranking. That's why I removed it.

Alf, appreciate your analytical mind. I used your "Add to Favorites" script.
Thanks for the script.

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:18 pm
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Krishna,

you are most welcome. Very Happy
Interesting. Sort of confirms my suspiscion. Even worse, since I launched the results of my experiment, tons of webmasters have visited that page. The next days will show the impact on my "ranking"...

UPDATE: Changes have arrived! See new graphics at

http://www.databasedesign-resource.com/alexa-ranking.html
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AllanGardyne wrote:
And I'm much more interested in sales figures than traffic stats.

Haven't you ever heard the saying...

"Alexa is vanity, profit is sanity".

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Thought you had. Wink

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:42 pm
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Alexa has changed the scale of its graphic impression of my sites ranking, because the popularity is going through the roof. Updated graphics, and so-far results from the poll.
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As of this evening 22.00 GMT Alexa has ranked me as no. 122.000 (approx.). That is a climb of 70.000 since I started the experiment 3 1/2 weeks ago, and a climb of 20.000 in the last 4 days, since I published the preliminary results of the experiment. Updated graphics can be found on the page.

http://www.databasedesign-resource.com/alexa-ranking.html
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I have never used Alexa to measure my own traffic. I have been using it to study my competition. For me it has been some kind of light-weight tool to position competing sites, according their presumed traffic. Guess I will not use it for that anymore.

I have also started to question the relevancy of those sites that Alexa shows as relevant links. Just a quick example (no scientific research here, just impressions and memories):

I recently read a book called Jennifer Government, I liked it so I checked some more information from the web. The first site I ended up with was an online game, based on the book. Game can be seen here www.nationstates.net

As related links, Alexa suggested sites like - these I use myself - google, phpBB, blogger, movable type and imdb. Sites like fark, homestarrunner, penny arcade and quizilla, I do not follow. I did not get any mention about maxbarry.com (author of the book) but as I visited his blog for couple of times, the Alexa suggestion link was there to recommend maxbarry.

I decided to start publishing my website as I write pages. I bet there is not other traffic to my site except my personal visits. In this case, it is almost like a game for me to see what Alexa will judge the related links for my site to be. After this try, I guess that I will just uninstall Alexa toolbar and stop using it as a tool to evaluate the competition. It is too easy to distort the numbers by ones own behaviour, especially on niche markets.

Databasedesigner, it has been fun to follow your experiments with Alexa.
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