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Niall Kennedy
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:07 am
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Hello mlmhost
Can you expand on what you say?
| Quote: | Google has started to filter out or ignore those linke being traded?
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I've seen suggestions that Google may examine links but I can't see how they could do this and not penalise legitimate links. I don't think they will penalise legitimate links.
Indeed I understand that Google are giving increased importance to "anchor text" - an element of any link.
Perhaps you are referring to off-topic links which will have no interest to site visitors?
On the other hand, if you have proof of Google ignoring links I'd be interested in seeing it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:45 am
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You may count how many link partners you have to your website and then do a search on "link:www.your-domain.com" on Google. And compare the result to see how big the difference is between your link partners and the google result.
And also compare the current google result with the one two months ago. The links of one of our company websites have dropped to less then 200 from 700+ in a couple of months.
Another way is to check the hottest sites listed on Linkpartners.com and compare their link parners with their google link search result.
There is a good source for that discussion: http://www.webmasterworld.com/ . |
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:58 am
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I don't think google penalizes websites swapping links because too many webmasters are doing link exchange. It simply ignores those traded links when it ranking websites. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:19 am
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It has also been discussed at WebmasterWorld that these dropped links are the result of fluctuations in the Google algo's that occur on a regular basis. Not to mention, some sites being dropped due to spam being detected on their site, or found they are linking with link farms. As bad sites get dropped from Google, any backlinks from those sites are dropped as well.
Google still maintains the backlinks are an important part of relevancy. What webmasters have to do is make sure the places they link to are relevant and provide quality content to their visitors.
Another thing that has come out of Google recently is the dropping of link references from forums for pagerank. So if you have your url posted in your forum post, while the forum will get indexed, your link may not. Google dropping backlinks from forum posts would account for huge drops in backlinks for a lot of webmasters.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:36 am
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| Debs wrote: | | Another thing that has come out of Google recently is the dropping of link references from forums for pagerank. So if you have your url posted in your forum post, while the forum will get indexed, your link may not. Google dropping backlinks from forum posts would account for huge drops in backlinks for a lot of webmasters. |
I read about this from Planet Ocean a while ago (and mentioned it in a post here), but I hadn't heard anyone else mention it until now. I was beginning to think there was nothing in it, but perhaps there is after all.
It will be interesting to see whether this has an adverse effect on the number of forum posts in the future! 
All the best,
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:52 pm
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I've known this for quite some time re: signatures in forum posts. But I think it is still a good way to promote your site. Not for pagerank, but for the actual site itself. I have received quite a few visitors from the posts I have made on forums.
Now, considering the subject matter of the site I post now, that may not be worth much. But if I do a site in the future about things of webmaster interest, then it would be 
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:29 pm
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You may count how many link partners you have to your website and then do a search on "link:www.your-domain.com" on Google. And compare the result to see how big the difference is between your link partners and the google result.
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Google does not list backlinks from pages with pr < 3. So that may explain it. But as far as i know all backlinks are used in pagerank calculation.
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I've known this for quite some time re: signatures in forum posts. But I think it is still a good way to promote your site. Not for pagerank, but for the actual site itself. I have received quite a few visitors from the posts I have made on forums.
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Yes. I agree with you . We should work towards helping others than trying to get pageranks.
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Now, considering the subject matter of the site I post now, that may not be worth much. But if I do a site in the future about things of webmaster interest, then it would be
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Or try to find forums related to your subject and post there. You will be helping your current website with visitors  . Btw debs, i checked out your website. Very neat. Good work there.
To your success,
Gana.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:29 pm
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Debs,
I wonder how typical you are of forum posters in general?
Many of your posts not only read as very knowledgable, but also look as though they have taken time to create. This isn't the case with many other posts (particularly on other forums) where a strong vested interest seems like the only reason for posting - either to promote a product or to get another link. I think the latter is the logic behind posting for many people.
Time will tell...
All the best,
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:33 pm
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| Charlie wrote: |
Many of your posts not only read as very knowledgable, but also look as though they have taken time to create. This isn't the case with many other posts (particularly on other forums) where a strong vested interest seems like the only reason for posting - either to promote a product or to get another link. I think the latter is the logic behind posting for many people.
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Hi Charlie,
I wanted to post that. You were ahead of me. Keep up the good work debs.
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Thank you Charlie and Gana for the compliments. I know from your posts you enjoy the interaction, guidance and learning that good forums can provide, so your comments mean a lot.
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Hi debs,
I have been researching, learning and observing a lot for the past 2 years about this field. I visit a lot of forums and read a lot of posts. Believe me when i say you are one of the people who wants to help people. Many a time when i see post, though i may feel like answering it, i pass it off. But soon i see your post. Maybe i should start contributing more. You are really inspiring me on this . Keep up the good work.
Btw charlie and debs, i will be starting a newsletter soon. I would very much like your contributions if possible. I will give you the details when i start it. If you interested, drop me a line at gananathan AT 1-stop-free-cell-phones.com . Thank you for your time.
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Niall Kennedy
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:07 pm
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The links of one of our company websites have dropped to less then 200 from 700+ in a couple of months.
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Interesting stuff. Have you analysed the dropped links. Is there any pattern to this?
Thanks for your response.
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Niall Kennedy
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:38 pm
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