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Post Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:55 am
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The forum mod_rewrite has been done!

With any luck, this forum should now be more search engine friendly - or it should be eventually after the search engines spider the forum.

Here's how the programmer who did the job for me explains it...

Functional Changes:

All relevant links are now generated as static html urls (e.g. http://associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic5777.html

Requests to appropriate "static html" urls are internally redirected to their respective php files.

It will be interesting to see if this results in more forum pages showing up in Google and Yahoo! search engine results pages.

The change appears to have been done smoothly without any disruption at all.

(I've also posted in a topic discussing forum software.)
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:13 pm
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Allan and Wally,

The forum mod_rewrite is NOT done Exclamation Smile

Some topics are messed up: You can't navigate to other pages etc.:
http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic5783.html

Here's an example: Try navigating to page 2 and higher:

http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic3932.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

A bug in the new fix is present, I'm afraid. Call the programmer. Idea
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:25 pm
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Thank you! The programmer is working on it now.

In the meantime, we've switched back to dynamic links to keep the message board going.
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:39 am
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I heard the latest version of phpbb (2.10 or 2.0.10 or some such?) was indexable, or that you could just add a couple of lines of code in the older versions to eliminate session IDs or some such.

Does anybody know if that's correct? I'm sort of on the lookout for a freebie or cheap forum software package that the SEs like. Hiring a programmer doesn't sound cheap, heh.

(Sorry for hijacking your thread, just curious and it seemed related).
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:48 pm
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I just tried a search at Google for...

allinurl: associateprograms +viewtopic site:associateprograms.com

(I added "viewtopic" because the forum software puts that word in forum URLs. Including "site:associateprograms.com" eliminated other domains.)

In April, such a search yielded 30 pages. Today it produced 84 pages.

I also tried...

allinurl: associateprograms +ftopic site:associateprograms.com

...because the mod-rewrite we've done puts "ftopic" in URLs. That yielded zero pages.

It will be interesting to try those searches again in a month or two.
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:29 pm
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I just did a search for...

site:associateprograms.com
and
site:www.associateprograms.com

Both show 13,300 pages, with lots of forum pages indexed.

An interesting thing is that forum pages are showing up in Google twice - with the old link and with the new.
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:01 am
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Wow!

I just did a search at Google for...

site:associateprograms.com

...and it now shows 17,700 pages.

It looks as though the mod rewrite has had a big effect on indexing forum pages.
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:27 am
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Blimey.

Looks like the rumours about mod_rewrite are true after all!

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It looks as though the mod rewrite has had a big effect on indexing forum pages.

Has anyone noticed any significant changes to a site linked to from a sig file?

This is the sort of sudden mass change that could help cast some light on the effectiveness on sigs and link popularity. (Usually several things happen slowly and concurrently and it can be difficult to know exactly what has worked.)

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Post Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:47 am
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Allan,

Quick question re the new mod_rewrite...

I understand the way to link to threads ("topics")...

http://associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic5778.html

(in this case)

...but what's the best way to link to a specific post (as opposed to a topic)? I notice the new post notification emails still use the old dynamic links such as...

http://associateprograms.com/discus/viewtopic.php?p=30577#30577

...for my last post in this thread.

You can also now use...

http://associateprograms.com/discus/sutra30577.html#30577

Basically is the anchor still needed to link to a specific post? I'm guessing it is, but I'm just checking in case you've set up a rewrite for specific posts, but I'm missing it.

In other words, under the new rules of this "brave new world", what's the best way to link to a specific post?

"sutra" plus anchor?

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Post Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:55 am
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Since my post a couple of days ago, Google has discovered another 1,100 pages on this site.

A search for site:associateprograms.com now finds 18,800 pages! Wow!

Charlie wrote:
...but what's the best way to link to a specific post (as opposed to a topic)?


The search engine friendly way would be to use this link for the topic...
http://associateprograms.com/discus/sutra30577.html
...and this link for the specific post...
http://associateprograms.com/discus/sutra30577.html#30577

Well, that seems to work, anyway. I'm just a learner when it comes to this stuff!

I suppose ideally we should get the mod_rewrite modified to change the notifications in emails to match the new style.
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:24 am
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Google has found another 100 pages.

A search for site:associateprograms.com shows 18,900 pages.
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:06 am
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hello,

I have studied your website allan. You have a great website. About your forum... there is some phpsessid that you need to keepaway. try to search on google a solution for it.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:38 am
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Allan,

Glad to hear Google's still raking up new pages by the "book-full". Smile

Charlie wrote:
...but what's the best way to link to a specific post (as opposed to a topic)?

AllanGardyne wrote:
The search engine friendly way would be to use this link for the topic...
http://associateprograms.com/discus/sutra30577.html
...and this link for the specific post...
http://associateprograms.com/discus/sutra30577.html#30577

Well, that seems to work, anyway. I'm just a learner when it comes to this stuff!

Thanks for the clarification.

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I suppose ideally we should get the mod_rewrite modified to change the notifications in emails to match the new style.

I think that might mean playing with the board software rather than mod_rewrite, but...

How about a sticky (locked thread) in "About..." titled "How to Link to This Forum"?

If you get any popular threads that other people want to link into, might as well put out a consistent message and grab any linking benefits you can.

I don't think it will matter exactly which link is used as long as it is static and everyone uses the same one. A word about anchor text might not go amiss, either.

Just a thought,
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:20 am
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Charlie wrote:
How about a sticky (locked thread) in "About..." titled "How to Link to This Forum"?


Good idea. I have a little problem there. When we revamped this forum, we continued to use the old AssociatePrograms.com/discus URL because we had links like that throughout the site, and external links to the site like that. That URL has a PageRank of 6 (with or without the www).

However, in the forum iteself, links to the forum main page go to
http://AssociatePrograms.com/discus/index.php , which has a PageRank of 4.

I'm not sure about this, but I suppose I should either be trying to get everyone to link to http://AssociatePrograms.com/discus/index.php OR
rewrite the forum software so that all links to the main page go to AssociatePrograms.com/discus .

I prefer to avoid software rewrites because it makes things messy when upgrading.

I'd be grateful for any ideas on this.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:50 am
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Allan,

I'm wondering if/how these changes may have effected your feelings on building this forum.

I believe at one point you expressed that you weren't anxious to promote the forum energetically because (if I remember right) it might change the nature of this community, and would of course be more work for you and Wally.

Do the new listings and traffic shine a new light on promoting the forum, or do you like the growth just as it is?
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