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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: What is FTP? Reply with quote

I havent built a website yet but planning to build one soon, but i was reading the Affiliate ebook and said something along the lines of after you buy your web hosting you get an acount you can FTP into, what is an FTP exactly, and how do you get one?
This is really important to me becuase currently its really the only thing thats holding me back from making my first affiliate site
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: What is FTP? Reply with quote

tyler wrote:
I havent built a website yet but planning to build one soon, but i was reading the Affiliate ebook and said something along the lines of after you buy your web hosting you get an acount you can FTP into, what is an FTP exactly, and how do you get one?
This is really important to me becuase currently its really the only thing thats holding me back from making my first affiliate site
thanks
Tyler


Short for File Transfer Protocol, the protocol used on the Internet for exchanging files. FTP works in the same way as HTTP for transferring Web pages from a server to a user's browser and SMTP for transferring electronic mail across the Internet in that, like these technologies, FTP uses the Internet's TCP/IP protocols to enable data transfer.
FTP is most commonly used to download a file from a server using the Internet or to upload a file to a server (e.g., uploading a Web page file to a server).

(from Webopedia.com ... http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/FTP.html)

Now, as far as you being able to FTP, once you get hosting for your site, your host will tell you (usually via email or an online manual they provide) what your user name and password will be and how to FTP (upload your pages) to their server.

Most times, you will need to get your own FTP software program, some hosts will recommend free programs and where to get them.

I use CuteFTP (which I purchased) so I am not familiar with free FTP programs but I know there are some out there.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where would I go to purchase this cuteFTP software and how much would it run me?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler wrote:
Where would I go to purchase this cuteFTP software and how much would it run me?
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I think I paid around $30 US for it, but it's been quite a while since then.
You can get it here:
http://www.cuteftp.com/cuteftp/

But, seriously, I recommend you go with a free program to start off with:

http://www.smartftp.com/download/

Why spend money when you don't have to? If you find the freebie doesn't meet your needs over the long term, then look at buying software. Wish I had done that when I started out! LOL

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually there are plenty of free FTP clients available online.
You can do search at Tucows http://www.tucows.com or you can simply search www.google.com for keywords: "free ftp" ,"freeware ftp" etc.
First one I found there is AceFTP 3 Freeware, and as I looked their screenshot, it seems to be fairly easy to use.
Its url is http://freeware.aceftp.com/
Overtime I've used several free ftp clients, but I've forgot their names. As with any software, there are some clients that are easy to use, some that are more complicated and some don't make any sense at all.
Also with Windows comes a simple text based DOS ftp but I think you shouldn't bother with that, cause it's harder to use, especially if you haven't used ftp before.

Rene


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would personally recommend SmartFTP from www.smartftp.com

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've downloaded smartftp and by what I have seen from it,is that it looks very confusing

I really dont have a problem with writing HTML. I've created sites on free webhost and can say I'm pretty good at designing simple html sites, but how does FTP fit into it? with the free webhost I would just go to my file manager and create and edit pages using html as well as uploading images(and nothing ever mentioned about ftp on the free webhost) how does FTP make this different?

PLEASE!! I really need advice on this since this is the only thing thats stopping me from building my affiliate sites and becoming and internet marketer, anything on this subject would be tremendously apprecaited
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler


Here is a good resource which explains matters related to ftp and more..

An Introduction to FTP

http://www.islandnet.com/~tmc/html/articles/ftp.htm

I hope this help.


All the best,


Harith
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lots of info on the site but all i want to know how to do is create pages using html as well as edit them along with uplaoding images with the smartftp, thats it

so if this is all i wanted to do i believe most of the icons on the smartftp program are usless, right?, create-edit-upload images thats all i want to know how to do with the smartftp
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smartftp.com have tutorials to learn it, but it still complicated
in the tutrials section under transfers it has these

Transfers
Download - Direct
Download - Session Queue
Download - Global Queue
Download - Windows Explorer

Upload - Direct
Upload - Session Queue
Upload - Global Queue
Upload - Windows Explorer

FXP - Direct
FXP - Global Queue

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which ones would be the only ones i would use to creat edit html pages and which one would i use to uplaod images, i have no idea what the difference between direct, session queue, global queue, and windows explorer are

i can see that i'm probably starting to annoy people with this thread, and really, i really am sorry
its just that learning this ftp is something very imprtant to me
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler wrote:
lots of info on the site but all i want to know how to do is create pages using html as well as edit them along with uplaoding images with the smartftp, thats it

so if this is all i wanted to do i believe most of the icons on the smartftp program are usless, right?, create-edit-upload images thats all i want to know how to do with the smartftp
thanks
Tyler


Tyler:

With html you create and edit the pages on your harddrive. You need a graphics program to create and edit images. FTP is only used to access your domain online, and upload the pages to the server to go live. I am not familiar with SmartFTP as I said, but with my program CuteFTP I sign into my site using my login and pw provided by my host, go to the folder my host says I have to put my files into (mine looks like the files on my puter with little folders, etc so I double click to open folders on my server just like windows), then I click the file I want to upload to highlight it, right click to select upload or "add to queue" and it does the rest. Although my software has a lot of things I can do with it, along with tons of icons, I rarely, if ever, use them since I keep my sites pretty simple.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what program do you use to create the html documents? wordperfect, microsoft word, or notepad, could either one of these be used to create an html page?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Read a good, "old-fashioned" book... Reply with quote

Hello Tyler.

Tyler wrote:
So what program do you use to create the html documents? wordperfect, microsoft word, or notepad, could either one of these be used to create an html page?

I firmly believe that the best (and quickest) way to get going with HTML is to buy and read a (real paper) book for beginners.

There are plenty to choose from... just read the reveiews and take your pick. Any decent beginners' book will also explain the basics of FTP and everything you need to get up and running.

When you are familiar with the basics, you can decide whether you want to use an HTML editor/creator at all. (I have never used anything other than Notepad.)

One book I can recommend is...

"HTML for the World Wide Web" by Elizabeth Castro.

It's a very practical (rather than theoretical) book for beginners, and should answer all your questions. This is the only one I own, so I can't recommend any others, though everyone seems to have a favourite! Smile

A book will save you hours of frustation and let you make minor code changes easily, even if you do use an editor.

Hope this helps,
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also create web pages using a plain text editor called TextPad. It costs a few dollars, but has a free trial.

I like it because the font changes color when you enter HTML code. If you forget to enter an instruction to end that bit of code, the font color lets you know.

I've been using TextPad for years.

I use CuteFTP to upload the pages to the web host.

You really ought to create ALL your web pages on your own computer, so that you have a backup copy saved in case your web host has a disaster or the web host fails.

I've read of cases where there was only one copy of a web site - the one online - and when the cheap web host went broke, the whole business disappeared. So keep your own copies.

Here's a tip to save you time when you're learning.

Always create very simple pages. When you've created a page you like, create a template, so that from then on you can create dozens of similar pages quickly without endless messing around and experimenting.

Here are some links to good sites which describe how to create web pages:
http://www.associateprograms.com/search/beginners.shtml

People mainly go to the Internet to look for information. You don't need a lot of bells and whistles to generate revenue online.

Remember that your main aim is to build a business, not spend time fiddling with web pages.

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again Tyler.

If you only have a few pages to upload, and you don't want to go to the trouble of getting FTP software, try asking your host if they will let you have an address of the form...

ftp://user@ftp.domain.com

Then you can just drag and drop file icons onto your browser window, to upload them to your host's server.

I have heard people say this is a bit buggy, but I still use this method myself for all but multi-page moves, and haven't had any problems.

Allan wrote:
Always create very simple pages. When you've created a page you like, create a template, so that from then on you can create dozens of similar pages quickly without endless messing around and experimenting.

It never ceases to amaze me how hard work some people make HTML sound. I agree with Allan... once you have made one crisp-looking simple template, most of the work is done.

Allan wrote:
People mainly go to the Internet to look for information. You don't need a lot of bells and whistles to generate revenue online.

Not only that, those of us (and there are many) who still have dial up access appreciate quick-loading pages. Bells and whistles don't come over too well with ActiveX and sometimes even graphics(!) switched off! Smile

Cheers,
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