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edburdo



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 1:02 pm    Post subject: website has moved - how to notify SE's? Reply with quote

I have recently moved my website. It is currently in two locations.

http://www.redleif.com/thedropshipguide

and

http://www.thedropshipguide.com

How can I notify the SE's that the pages have moved? If I use a httpd redirect, will the SE's pick that up and update their index, or do I need to notify them, or is there another way.

Thanx!
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Charlie



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: The 301 Redirect Method Reply with quote

Hello Eric.

Here's a method I read about earlier this year. I am not an SEO expert, but the person who told me was! Very Happy

Anyway, here goes...

1. Leave the old site in place for now.

2. Create a 301 (permanent) redirect at your old server. (You can do this yourself via the .htaccess file if you know how, otherwise ask your host.)
Apparently the engines like 301s and generally transfer page rank to the new site.

3. Gradually update all incoming links to the new URL (to keep your link popularity).

4. Watch your logs at the old server, and only take the site down once the traffic has dropped right off (meaning the spiders have happily taken to the new site). This may take months. If in doubt, wait.

One more thing...

You will quite probably suffer some temporary drop in rankings, whichever method you choose. If you rely on top Google rankings to keep your business alive, and your site is divided into directories, consider using the 301 redirect on one directory at a time. (If the first works smoothly, you can always go for the whole hog after that.)

Hope this helps,
Charlie.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice post Charlie!

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2. Create a 301 (permanent) redirect at your old server. (You can do this yourself via the .htaccess file if you know how, otherwise ask your host.)
Apparently the engines like 301s and generally transfer page rank to the new site.


I have heard of this technique being used for transferring the PR/links from an old site to a new site, but I have a feeling that it takes ages (many months). However, this may not still be the case considering that Google are moving towards a more continuous update.

Has anyone used this method for transferring PR? If so, how long did it take? I'd be really interested to know!

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Charlie



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jon.

Glad you found the post interesting! Very Happy

I wrote:
Here's a method I read about earlier this year. I am not an SEO expert, but the person who told me was!

Jon wrote:
I have heard of this technique being used for transferring the PR/links from an old site to a new site, but I have a feeling that it takes ages (many months). However, this may not still be the case considering that Google are moving towards a more continuous update.

Just to clarify... I learnt of this method in April 2003. Apparently it had been working well for a few months, at that time. I haven't had the "pleasure" of moving hosts lately, so I have no first hand experience of the method.

Cheers,
Charlie.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just made the changes to the htaccess file yesterday. I only have 6 pages, so I made an entry for each. If you have many pages, you can use the Mod Rewrite stuff and create rules to move things.

I will let you know how it goes with Google. As far as the user is concerned, it redirects seamlessly...
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kidino



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is rather useful. Thanks for the guide. I realize that in CPanel that you do redirect and you have the option of either permenant or temporary. Is the permenant the 301? If yes, I might be needing this later.

You see I am starting out with mywebsite.somehost.com right now and planning to move it to mywebsite.com someday. I find that this is rather useful.
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Charlie



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:34 pm    Post subject: Make sure it is a 301 Reply with quote

Hello all.

kidino wrote:
This is rather useful. Thanks for the guide. I realize that in CPanel that you do redirect and you have the option of either permenant or temporary. Is the permenant the 301?

There are various ways to redirect your web site or page. For the method I described, it is vital to use the 301 redirect in .htaccess file, as the SEs treat different redirects in completely different ways.

A 301 redirect for your entire site will need a .htaccess entry of the form...

Code:
redirect 301 / http://www.yournewdomain.com/


If you are in any doubt whatsoever, ask your web host for help.

Cheers,
Charlie.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kidino wrote:
Is the permenant the 301?


Yes.

301 is "Moved Permanently"
302 is "Moved Temporarily"
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