Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 1761 Location: Bangor, Maine
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject:
I know this is off topic a bit, but you can now use PHP to make applications, similar to Perl. But it is still predominately used for websites.
Well, I am on day 5 of the SBI! Action Guide. It is a bit tough for me to follow, just because I like to jump around and do things my own way. Which would probably take 3x as long. :) _________________ Eric D. Burdo They Made $6,513 a day With Clickbank Doing This...
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:49 pm Post subject: Its time to take action for what you want!
Hello Kathy & All,
Thank you for the kind words, yes it is a long term program & I will be sticking to it, I recently purchased the incredable SBI from sitesell.com.
Well I said to myself "if im going to be really successful with a business online or off-Im going to sit down & read , read, & yup!-you gessed it , READ."
So Ive read the "manauls" from the 5pillar club-"about time I hear you say!",
Purchased the SBI & have set up my new site www.workfromhome-free.com
Its only live for two weeks, Yes I know there are 1000's of sites like that!-well not so true-there are twits to this concept, Within the SBI MANAGER it tells you to "brainstorm" everything you can think of, so I did as mentioned & found that I was most comfortable with going on what I allready know-(online mlm,affiliate,marketing....... businesses)-eventhough advised not to by the (sbi system).
With this in hand I have set up the site in order to give "surfers" the ability to get free resources & information on setting up & running a online business, this will be sent via my ezine-NO SALES AD INTENTION!!-I just want to reply to the people who have taken the time to read my previous posts & give them an update to my situation.
So kathy & all I beleive there is a time & place for everything.
My site still needs work but im studying hard.
For those of you who have not purchased the SBI, do it now, it really does stand upto its "rep".]
When it comes to HTML, PHP, CIA etc. you don't have to have extremely deep knowledge. First, there are tons of WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editors both free and fee based. I use dreamweaver mostly. However you need to know html at least to some extent, cause what you see, is definetely not what you get sometimes. Unless you want to build messageboards or database driven portals scripts yourself you're not gonna need lot of php either. There are plenty of free scripts online (like script for this messageboard for example). Of course you need to know the basics, to integrate them to your site. I use php mostly for SSI purpose myself. Which basically means that with few lines of script you can create template for your page, so if you want make changes to site's outlook later, you don't have go through all the the pages you have. Especially handy for big content sites. Lets you focus more on content than technicals.
The tools you use, actually breaks down to number of different factors. First, your own abilities. How good you are at designing, how comfy you feel with technical stuff, how much time and money you've got. If you can't afford all the high tech tools and buy graphics, you obviously have to do it all yourself. If you can afford them it already depends on what you want to focus on, how much freedom do you want in a creation process, or simply how lazy you are or aren't. I, for example, am lazy, so I try to let machines to as much work as possible
However I also want to be able to tweak and change each and every aspect and tiny bits of my sites, so I'm bit sceptical about tools that don't have options for other technical stuff than html.
I, for example, am lazy, so I try to let machines to as much work as possible. However I also want to be able to tweak and change each and every aspect and tiny bits of my sites, so I'm bit sceptical about tools that don't have options for other technical stuff than html.
Couldn't agree more!
This is exactly what I have been trying to say in various posts. Thanks for putting it so concisely!
All the best,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
I like the sbi concept. But i am adept using html and i can pick up languages and scripts easily. Its been a second nature to me. But I cannot implement them with sbi. If i want to spruce up my website with say, databases,php etc.. It cannot be done. I can understand that it could be difficult to integrate with the current system. But what if i need them ?
I know you can make good income with just writing content and the tools and with html compatibility module in place, it is great to work with it. But my problem is what if i want to offer dynamic content, i cannot do it with current setup. What if i want to build a community, i can't. So i think SBI is great for people who are not comfortable technically and those who want only static pages and none of the bells and whistles. But if we need any of them, it gets to be a problem. This is my main gripe. But as i said, i still love the concept and it is great to have everything under one package. It is economical too. But if i want anything other than ones provided, i am out of luck.
Now i have learnt PHP and it is quite easy to pick up(took me around 3 hours) if you know C/C++. Very easy and useful. I will be doing a poll system for my website soon. Things like this will not be possible with sbi.
But it is great for many people who don't want to bother with seo and stuff like that. So i will be recommending it to my friends. The tools are very good. If SBI was here 2 years ago, i might have used it. But even then, i am a programmer at heart and cannot restrict myself with given tools. So i would have learnt the stuff anyway.
But the bottomline is that it is a good deal for many people. The upfront payment may be the only barrier for many people. I hope they come with different payment options.
Lets see what happens.
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 1761 Location: Bangor, Maine
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject:
Most affiliate and content based websites don't need the "bells and whistles" as you call them. They are fairly static.
Although you can include dynamic content via JavaScript (such as RSS feeds, or AdSense and such).
I have one website that I won't ever move to SBI. Why? Because it is programming based, and I use PHP and MySQL to provide the sample source code and tutorials to the user. But, I also don't plan on making any real money from the site. Programming is not an easy area to make money from, affiliate wise. (selling programs and scripts is another story).
Programming is not an easy area to make money from, affiliate wise. (selling programs and scripts is another story).
I know what you mean by that. I tried it first in market research as that was my best interest. But it turned out bad. So i dropped it.
I agree with you that you can make good money with just static pages, but having other options dosen't hurt too. But i guess the SBI package would be perfect for many people, so from a business viewpoint, i would do the same thing that sitesell does. So no complaints there.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:52 am Post subject:
gana wrote:
If i want to spruce up my website with say, databases,php etc.. It cannot be done.
Perhaps you could have a SBI site, to get all the research, promotion and tracking tools etc, and link those pages to a non_SBI site that includes your databases etc.
If you made the sites look the same and if they had very similar domain names, the connection could be almost seamless.
On the other hand, if you're that much of a techie, perhaps you don't need SBI _________________ Allan Gardyne
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Allan wrote:
Perhaps you could have a SBI site, to get all the research, promotion and tracking tools etc, and link those pages to a non_SBI site that includes your databases etc.
OK, the point about using SBI! to drive traffic to another site has often been made, but put this way, it certainly seems to rewrite some of the SBI! versus DIY arguments. I knew I was missing something!
Allan wrote:
If you made the sites look the same and if they had very similar domain names, the connection could be almost seamless.
Maybe use .net for the backroom and .com for the "brand".
Incidentally, it's generally accepted that .com, .net, and .org all share equal favour with the SEs when it comes to ranking algorithms. The .com version is obviously better for branding and direct-typed domains, but if you envisage relying on the SEs and other links for all your traffic, don't necessary reject a domain just because .com has gone. As long as it's not trademarked, .net may well do just as well (and you might be surprised what's still available)
Allan wrote:
On the other hand, if you're that much of a techie, perhaps you don't need SBI
Perhaps it depends if you're a techie for "techie's sake" or a techie who likes to get the best of both worlds, whenever possible...
and "dares to be lazy" given the opportunity!
Cheers,
Charlie. _________________ "Before I speak, I have something important to say."
- Groucho Marx
Perhaps you could have a SBI site, to get all the research, promotion and tracking tools etc, and link those pages to a non_SBI site that includes your databases etc.
If you made the sites look the same and if they had very similar domain names, the connection could be almost seamless.
That's a good idea. Thanks allan for the tip. I think phil also uses something like this as his original host did not support a required feature. But then dynamic pages cannot be used. Once setup dynamic pages will really help a lot and can be used for a number of things. Also when considering search engines, they have some disadvantage. But something is definitely better than nothing
AllanGardyne wrote:
On the other hand, if you're that much of a techie, perhaps you don't need SBI
That's my problem. Yes, i don't actually need SBI. But I really like SBI and it is a very economical package. But with some features missing, it may not suit many of my ideas. This is what really tears me apart. I like it and yet cannot use for some things i might need. But from a business standpoint, i would do the same thing that ken has done. The products of sitesell are excellent quality and they offer a good affiliate program. Hats off to ken and the sitesell team. Its a question of Want rather than need. I want to use it, not because i need it. Maybe i will somehow come up with a way.
Charlie wrote:
Perhaps it depends if you're a techie for "techie's sake" or a techie who likes to get the best of both worlds, whenever possible...
and "dares to be lazy" given the opportunity!
Charlie, you are right on mark. I dare to be lazy given the opportunity.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:06 pm Post subject: SBI
I want to build a website which contains newsletters, how to information, special interest discussions and sell affiliated products from at least 3 linked sites. Is this something which can be put together with SBI? As many participants in this forum, I prefer not dealing with the technical side of programing but get to an active website quickly. Victor @buildwebsite4u.com thought I might get some practical help through this forum.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:53 am Post subject: Re: SBI
Hello Jim.
Jim wrote:
I want to build a website which contains newsletters, how to information, special interest discussions and sell affiliated products from at least 3 linked sites. Is this something which can be put together with SBI?
Absolutely.
Jim wrote:
As many participants in this forum, I prefer not dealing with the technical side of programing but get to an active website quickly.
You are like most people - and SBI! is designed for people like you. People with a programming / techie background are often frustated by the "limitations" of SBI!, but for the rest of the population, it's a case of what you don't know, you won't miss!
SBI's real strengths lies in it's concept researching and search engine friendly design approach, if you ask me. You will get the benefits of these without having to really understand the "why", if that's the approach you want to take.
Just follow the guide closely, and be patient.
All the best,
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Unless you want to build messageboards or database driven portals scripts yourself you're not gonna need lot of php either. There are plenty of free scripts online (like script for this messageboard for example). Of course you need to know the basics, to integrate them to your site. I use php mostly for SSI purpose myself. Which basically means that with few lines of script you can create template for your page, so if you want make changes to site's outlook later, you don't have go through all the the pages you have. Especially handy for big content sites. Lets you focus more on content than technicals.
Victor @buildwebsite4u.com thought I might get some practical help through this forum.