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niz85
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:39 pm
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Hi everyone
If from a page, I link to the same page itself, will it do anything good for my rankings? or will it be of any harm?
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Debs
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:20 pm
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It may help, it won't hurt. I've seen many sites that do it and if you use your keyphrase in the link text it's a plus.
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DatabaseDesigner
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:26 pm
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Debs,
will it not actually raise your page rank? Linking from a
Home page -> 2-tier -> 3-tier -> Home page, creating an infinite loop? With pure text links and all of them with important keywords? _________________ DatabaseDesigner
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Debs
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:31 pm
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I assume it would but would prefer to hear Sean's input on it. If it would auto raise the PR, then everyone would be putting tons of same page links on each page of their site.
It's an interesting thought though
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niz85
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:36 pm
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| Quote: | "I use the attention spider text on the bottom of each page on my website. I have a linked word within that statement pointing to the same page. is this good to do?
It used to be good but now it's pretty much the opposite and you can actually hamper your chances doing so." |
Taken from:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum5/4063.htm
So, I was just confirming that. But now I am confused that will it be helpful or not?
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Debs
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:42 pm
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Niz, that's why I want Sean's input, he is the resident SEO expert here. That post comes from who? and with what experience and knowledge of the SE's?
My feeling is it can't hurt because you have a navigation bar on each page of your site, and at some point it is going to link to the page it is on ... so it makes no sense to "hurt" you ... it would defeat useability standards to hurt your ranking.
I think "common sense" has to be applied on a regular basis in SEO when it comes to wondering if something "hurts" ...
Now, whether those types of links are counted in PR, etc. I don't know.
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Sean Burns
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:48 pm
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In the last few months, Google has been showing pages as Backlinks to themselves. I don't think this happened before but I can't be sure.
So, if a page is showing as it's own Backlink I'd have to assume that a page linking to itself sends PR. This means that it could be helpful - in the same way that any link is helpful.
Definitely won't hurt though (as Debs said).
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niz85
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:22 am
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Thankyou Sean Burns for confirming that it wont hurt.
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MikeO
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:43 am
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I'm still getting my induction to all this.
Yesterday I saw my first page with the same highlighted keywords in 3 different paragraphs that each linked back to the page. I pressed the 3 links thinking I just didn't pay attention, so from an SE perspective I tripled my views on that page.
From a new user perspective I felt I wasted my time with an unfinished page, so I clicked off the site.
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Debs
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:03 pm
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Mike, that is the problem with people doing it incorrectly. Just linking that way to the same page is confusing and visitors won't like it. However, using the technique once or twice, as a clear reference point for your visitors to return to the top of the page would be much better IMO.
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crm911
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:46 am
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Some people link pages to themselves as a deliberate tactic, sometimes many times on one page. They think it gives the page a boost. I don't consider this useful to my visitors, so I don't do it in general.
However, many, many sites use a repeating nav bar that has a link to the page itself and are not penalised. Most of these nav links are poor anchor text, so they don't add any value from a SEO perspective.
If you consider each link on a page sharing the PR of that page, then each additional link dilutes the individual PR that is passed. So, keep PR-passing links to a minimum if you want need the PR benefit. All things considered, I prefer not to link a nav bar element when it belongs to the displayed page - it's a usability thing. |
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