Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:27 am Post subject: NewsletterPromote: nothing but spam -- be aware!
I sent the following email to Allan Gardyne. He suggested I post it in the forum.
If you recently purchased NewsletterPromote or you're an author who has recently been plagued with "article submissions" from those who have been duped into purchasing the program -- read on!
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Hi Allan,
Your ezine is fantastic. A while back you wrote a review about my success with infopackets.com, and I was very impressed to say the least.
Allan, I just wanted you to know that for the last 6 months or so I've been *absolutely plagued* with bogus "article submissions" from people who use Newsletterpromote and want me to publish their articles in my ezine. The problem is that:
a) the articles have nothing to do with my web site or content
b) I have *never* given Paul Knapp permission to use my name with his program
c) I'm sick and tired of receiving bogus "article submissions" that claim to teach people how to get rich in 5 days or less!
I have made many attempts to contact Paul Knapp and asked him that he please remove my name from his promotion program, but he has never responded.
I have resorted to replying with my own "form letter" to those people who have been duped into using Newsletterpromote, but I don't feel this is going anywhere (see the attached letters).
I was wondering if you could do some investigating of your own and perhaps write up an article to your own people and warn them of this bogus program.
Thank you for your time.
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EXAMPLE #1: The 'out-of-the-box' form letter people use when sending me their "article submissions" in conjunction with NewsletterPromote.
" Hi Dennis,
I've just written an excellent article titled:
'Creativity Can Kill Your Network Marketing Business'
I believe it would be of GREAT value to your subscribers.
Feel free to publish it in your eZine
(all I ask is that you publish it in it's entirety) "
... and it goes on.
EXAMPLE #2: The 'I put the blame to NewsletterPromote, so it's OK that I can spam you with my form letter'
" Dear ezine publisher,
Please forgive this form letter header, this article is being submitted to you via software I purchased from Newsletterpromote.com.
I have a timely and exciting quiz on CAN-SPAM. No one has yet to put out a quiz on the subject. You may frame our interactive quiz on your site. "
... and it goes on.
Just recently, I responded to someone who sent me an email using the NewsletterPromote program (Joachim Dyndale). He apologized for spamming me unintentionally:
" I am so sorry! I have now asked for a refund and have alerted the author of the program of the many, many faults in his program.
I?ve received several other complaints from this mailing (which was my first). I will be warning all my subscribers not to use that software or anything else by Paul Knapp.
I hope you won?t send a spam-complaint as this was totally unintentional and though I don?t like to blame others for my actions, this is clearly the fault of mr. Paul Knapp.
You won?t hear from me again, as I won?t ever use that software again. It?s very unlikely I?ll ever use ANY automated submission software again.
Once again, I?m sorry.
-Joachim Dyndale "
And, Joachim was kind enough to forward me an email he received from another publisher (Miachael Rawls) who complained about NewsletterPromote:
"RE: Absolutely no business or marketing related articles will ever be accepted.
Please see that future article submissions from you to this address meet the above criteria, or your email address will be blocked.
Why do I think you should fire your article promotion software vendor [NewsletterPromote]?
Your email asked for my comments, so here they are -
If you have not had the article promotion software you are using for more than 90 days, you can get your money back, especially if you feel you are not getting the value from the product that you expected. I would recommend considering this option, and please let Mr. Paul Knapp know that I said as much, should you contact him, because he isn't listening to my complaints about qualifying publishers and targeting the genr? of article submissions. What the heck, you get the keep the software, anyway! See http://www.newsletterpromote.com for his Full Money Back Guarantee details. "
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Comments?
I'm curious to know if any other authors are experiencing the same problems with NewsletterPromote? I for one would like to put an end to all of this madness. It's been going on for way too long and I'm sick and tired of it.
Looks like Allan has the same problem as me. Any one else willing to step forward and say something?
----- Original Message -----
From: Allan Gardyne
To: Dennis Faas
Cc: Glennys Faulds
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: newsletterpromote problems?
Hi Dennis (cc to Glennys Faulds)
>>I just wanted you to know that for the last 6 months or so I've been
>>*absolutely plagued* with bogus "article submissions" from people who use
>>Newsletterpromote and want me to publish their articles in my ezine.
I sympathize. I also receive many newsletter submissions,
some of them offering material which has nothing to do with
the content of my newsletter.
...
>> Do you receive the same ones I receive? Are they from Newsletterpromote? Specifically, do they follow the same form as:
>> " Hi Dennis,
>> I've just written an excellent article titled:
>> 'Creativity Can Kill Your Network Marketing Business'
>> I believe it would be of GREAT value to your subscribers.
Yes. I've received a large number like that. Most of them
are on Internet marketing topics. I find it extremely odd
that they describe their own articles as "excellent"!
Aside from the fact his web site boasts a '700% increase in subscribers', it appears that those who been duped into purchasing his software actually believe that their articles are going to get read by legitimate publishers.
The latest victim of NewsletterPromote speaks:
" > Hi Dennis,
>
> I've just written an excellent article titled:
> "The One Simple Trick that can double your Adsense revenue"
>
> I believe it would be of GREAT value to your subscribers.
>
> Feel free to publish it in your eZine
> (all I ask is that you publish it in it's entirety)
...
Dennis,
I'm very sorry about this. Paul Knapp said that all of the editors wanted these article submissions for their newsletters. I see now that he lied about this ...
A link I found from "howtocorp.com" had some *very* enlightening comments from Rebekah Nahai. Pay close attention to what she says specifically about NewsletterPromote and the author, Paul Knapp.
If any length of time has elapsed since you've been marketing online, chances are you've heard of promoting your business through free article writing and distribution.
By attaching a resource box to the end of your article and sending it out to publishers and article banks, you've created an efficient funnel for generating free publicity for your website.
After a while, however, the task of distributing your article by hand, over and over again, can become tedious and downright boring.
Desperate times called for drastic measures, and inevitably, two marketers came up with the idea of producing a tool to promote articles to multiple sources "at the click of a button."
Those ideas developed into software programs, and EzineAnnouncer by Jason Potash and Newsletter Promote by Paul Knapp were born.
Both programs claim to increase e-zine subscriptions by "up to 700%" and automate your article promotion process "by up to 100%." The results will be so great, they claim, you'll be utterly and completely swamped in a sea of new subscribers and basking in the light of the massive free publicity.
If you're like me, your first instinct is to jump on such a perfect opportunity without further ado. It's for this precise reason that I returned to the EzineAnnouncer website time and time again to read the sales letter in its entirety, debating my indecision as to whether I should shell out the $69 or not.
I downloaded the trial version, played around with it, and was satisfied with the easy interface the software offered. Yet considering the demo provides very limited resources compared to the full product, I wasn't able to nearly experience its full potential.
My mind was changed when I stumbled upon Newsletter Promote. Similar features and much smaller price tag ($37) had me convinced, and I handed over my hard-earned money.
Outright disappointment greeted me upon completion of the download. The product proved to meet the opposite of my expectations for several reasons.
First, Paul Knapp claimed in his sales letter that "only e-zines with over 50,000 subscribers were listed, as anything less than this is a waste of time." I'm curious then, Paul, why are there listings with subscriber bases of 13,000?
While the latter number is still a good size, it merely shows that he contradicts himself, shooting down the product's credibility (and desirability).
Second, while the article submissions support merge features (Hi Bob, How's your e-zine Bob's Ezine?), the same unconvincing, pre-fabricated message is sent out to all the publishers. The instructions make it unclear as to whether this message can be changed or not.
Since the e-zine publishers who are listed must recieve that same generic e-mail over and over again from Newsletter Promote customers, they recognize the fake nature of the letter and undoubtedly send each message to the trash can -- without even reading the article. Thus, the entire purpose of the software is defeated.
Lastly, there are some broken links to article submission sites, as well as a couple of irrelevant e-zine categories. Once again, credibility is shot down and the desire for a refund keeps growing by the second.
After contacting both Paul Knapp and the credit card company he uses asking for my money back, no reply has been sent and no refund issued. Unless you have a burning desire to purchase a poor product that doesn't deliver as promised -- as well as find yourself tapping your foot impatiently as you wait for the refund you'll inevitably ask for -- I suggest you stay away from NewsletterPromote. "
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: Beware
Coming from the same country as this 'Paul Knapp',
I have had 'dealings' with him and, I have to report
that he is a [Deleted. If you're going to make outrageous claims, please supply supporting facts. I don't want to be sued for libel. Admin.]
In fact, I'm sure that the name he uses is NOT his
real name. [What evidence do you have? Admin.]
I would urge everyone who has had 'dealings' with
him to report him by making a complaint to the company
who Host his site.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:34 am Post subject:
Hi David
You're accusing Paul of illegal activities. Please give some details to support your statement or I'll delete or edit your post. I don't want to be sued for libel. _________________ Allan Gardyne
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject:
The first article I was sent was on the subject of what a bad idea it is to spam!! I just replied to him by asking if I had asked for an article from him? Never heard back.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: A duped user
Hello everyone.
My new ebusiness partner suggested that I send my articles out
through the article submission form in her back office. She said
she uses it every friday to send her articles to nearly 300 publishers
looking for marketing content.
I had now idea what it was, so I just thought this was awesome.
(and of course was wondering how she set it up to do this)
After submitting my article through her site I received 60 bounces
and a couple SPAM complaints.
Even from the user's point of view... newsletter promote stinks.
I'm a wannabe internet writer. I can't afford to piss off publishers,
and it was NEVER my intent to do so. Yet by using NP in her back
office... I'm afraid that's exactly what I've done.
I had no clue what the system was, and didn't know it was creating
such a bad situation for editors. Now I do.
My apologies to anyone who received my unintentional SPAM for
my articles. It won't happen again. Once was enough.
After Russ inadvertently spammed me with NewsletterPromote, I sent him a link to this forum. I am both surprised (and impressed) that he had the nerve to publicly post an apology.
Update 4/15/2004:
By the way, Paul Knapp currently has Newsletter Promote on sale for "ONLY $10! ... A MASSIVE SAVINGS OF $27!" on his site.
Hmmm. Wonder why?
Prospective purchasers must be shouting aloud "increase subscriber rate by 700%... and for only $10.00? Quick -- where's my credit card!?"
Apparently Russ inadvertantly spammed me, too, using Newsletter Promote. I didn't consider it spam, because I do accept guest articles for my newsletter.
This was the first time I'd seen someone describe their own article as "Excellent" which I now understand is how the Newsletter Promote software sends out messages.
Russ wrote to me this morning apologizing for using NP. He also gave me the link to this forum so I could see what's been said about it.
I almost purchased the product myself about a year ago. I had some questions about it and Paul Knapp never bothered to reply to my numerous e-mails.
My final e-mail to him told him that even for only $10 (yes, he offered it that cheap starting about then) he'd never get any money from me because of his lack of concern for his customers and potential customers.
In fact, as I recall, for a long time I got information from him at 2 different e-mail accounts, even after asking to be removed.
I hope anyone who gets spammed by the Newsletter Promote program will simply be kind enough to e-mail the author and not acuse him/her of spamming. It's not their fault they bought a bad product.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Admin Oppstar" <***@oppstar.com>
To: "Dennis Faas" <X>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:34 PM
Subject: newsletter promote -- nothing but spam -- be aware!
RE: AssociatePrograms.com discussion forum / Newsletter Promote Scam
Thanks a million for the information. I feel really stupid [for using Newsletter Promote], but looks like I'm not alone. I will warn my subscribers about this and try to get my money back ;-(
I received another "article for consideration" yesterday from another fellow, but he didn't bother to post a reply in the forum or acknowledge my warning emails about Newslette Promote.
It is my hope that people will band together and respond to this forum. Please keep this post active -- it's the only way Google will pick it up and it's the only way visitors to Alan's web site will be informed about shoddy individuals like Paul Knapp.
I used to be proud of never being fooled on the net. Now I guess i can't say that anymore
I bought the Newsletter Promote just recently, inspired by an article writing ecourse by Mike Steup. He is endorsing it in one of his lessons (I've enclosed that particular lesson) The link he provides redirects to newsletterpromote.com. That's where I bought NP.
Anyway, I was lucky to only used the software once and got warned by Dennis right away (thanks). I was told this software would submit my article to 500 publishers! Now I was lucky again, because there are no 500 publishers listed in this program. I "only" got 67 bounces and 5 emails
got through.
I didn't loose a lot, just $10 which I suspect I will never see again. But what pisses me off is all the extra work this gave me. I've had to go through all my autoresponders, website resource pages, send letters to my subscribers to give them a warning, appologizing for being stupid. I
bought this software to save time. Instead I got a mess that stole my time.
.................here's the letter that made me buy NP..........................
Hello Anna,
I hope you have had a chance to submit your article to the
directories. The next three parts of this course will show
you some ways to make the whole process much easier.
Ok, so you submitted to a few article directories. Takes a
long time, doesn't it? Don't you just wish there was a way
to do this much quicker?
Alright, I confess. There is a great program that will
submit to artilce directories automatically for you. It was
created by Paul Knapp, and it is a real time saver. All you
need to do is fill out a form, and hit submit. It doesn't
get much easier than that.
It is only $10, so it won't break the bank. This is totally
up to you, but I know how boring submitting to article
directories can be. Once I got this program, I could submit
to all of the best directories in less time than it takes
to drink a cup of coffee (I think - I don't drink coffee,
but I don't think it takes that long!).
Want to know what else this program does? I'm glad you
asked, because it does a lot!
You will get a database of over 500 eZine publishers that
accept your articles, all with at least 50,000 subscribers!
Imagine if just two publishers decided to publish your
article. That would be at least 200,000 people reading
*YOUR* article. I think that is worth much more than the
$10 you would spend for this little program.
Just to give you fair warning, the $10 price is only good
for a limited time. It will be going back up to its normal
price of $37.00 very soon.
Take a look at what else Newsletter Promote will do:
Submit to eZine Directories
Submit to Announcement Lists
Submit to Article Directories
SUbmit your article to over 500 publishers
Submit to Article Announcement Lists
Help you find Ad Swap Partners.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: Well, at least I'm not the only one...
It sounded like a good deal, anyway. And if it had worked legitimately, it would have been great. Apparently, Mr. Knapp ripped off others besides me on his Newsletter Promote. _________________ Darlene Bishop
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Darlene Bishop" <webmaster AT waZZZhmteam DOT com>
To: "Dennis Faas" <x>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Would like to publish your article -- please respond!
Actually, I'm doing it more blatantly than that. I have a column in my newsletter called WAHM Warnings. I'm posting a very blunt ad that Paul Knapp is one to avoid. I'm also going to contact PayPal since I used my PayPal debit card to pay for this transaction and ask if they can do anything. I don't like to be ripped off. Thanks, again, for your help on this, Dennis.
Darlene Bishop
----- Original Message -----
From: "Boaze Publishing Owner" <owner AT boZZZazepublishing DOT biz>
To: "Dennis Faas" <x>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: would like to publish your article -- please respond
Hi Dennis,
Thanks for the heads up about the newsletter promote. one of my staff members submitted my new articles and she wasn't aware of this ripp off, no good program that sends out articles to various publishers who did not request to be on this program list.
I appreciate your kind understanding and I have got my webmaster to destroy this "newsletter promote". I apologize for this and you will not receive any further mailings from us.
Thank You
Steven Boaze
owner AT boZZZazepublishing DOT biz
[Email addresses edited to try to fool spam robots. Admin.]
Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: There's another list...
Hello,
Yesterday I sent out an article and received a reply from Dennis informing me that I had been "duped into purchasing NewsletterPromote"and that he never asked to receive articles. The problem is that I didn't use NewsletterPromote!
About 6 months ago I purchased a list of article publishers from a well known marketer. I'd rather not post the specifics here because I don't think this person added anyone to his list that he knew didn't want to receive articles.
However, if you think you may be on the list please contact me and I'll gladly look it up.
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I just replied to him by asking if I had asked for an article from him? Never heard back.
