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Lea
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:06 am
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Hi all,
I already have a reasonably successful website that is quite busy and earning enough to keep me sort-of happy (average of around $1,000 month from ads, affiliate programs and sales ofmy own ebooks). The site is a highly targeted niche with 450+ pages of quality content and plenty of subscribers to a fortnightly newsletter.
Problem is: It's not enough for me to go full time.
So I figure I'll need to create another site on another niche that I am passionate about. It has absolutely nothing to do with the first site - chalk and cheese! - but I'll be working with what I know and what I enjoy. Again.
Problem 2: I still have my day-job and don't feel as though I'll have enough time to run two busy sites. The first one takes enough out of my week right now. Creating two newsletters would be eating into any spare time I had left.
I know I need to create the second site to push my online income up, and I can't leave the day-job until I come close to matching the full time income - but I don't have the time whilst still working full time. Talk about a Catch 22.
Anyone else running more than one busy site AND still maintaining a day job?
Any assistance/guidance/advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:38 am
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Hi Lea!
Sounds like you might be spending too much time on the first site.
... too much time answering email? : build FAQ page,and/or add a BBS,so your visitors can help each other.
too much time on job?
40+ hrs work + 18 hrs getting to and from ?
put your website address in your sig line so we can take a look.
might be a way to make more $$$,with what you have now.
Running Google AdSense ads?
Tom
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:38 am
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Well, it can be done. Im currently going to school, working, and working on my sites. (started site # 2 yesterday.) The real thing to do though is to just set yourself a schedule. Actually, a weekly schedule would be a good idea.
This way, its almost like having to "clock in" for a shift. Ive found that this seriously helps my productivity (ie: keeps me away from slacking off online.)
I dont know if you do this or not, but if you don't you may want to give it a shot. And wow..if I was making $1,000 a month Id be happy! I just started this about a month ago...so i'm only getting about 40 visitors a day.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:20 am
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There are different ways to create and maintain separate sites. The major trick is time management and being organized. Once you get a site up to about 50 or 100 pages, your rate of update can slow considerably, like one article a week. In your newsletter you want to keep things standardized, same format, a "plug and send" approach, this will save a lot of time.
You may also opt to have several sites with a newsletter and several without a newsletter.
If you use Adsense to monetize you have less to mess with if an affiliate program gets removed, not to say you shouldn't use affiliate programs, just keep them organized. Maybe fewer pages with affiliate links and have other pages drive traffic to your affiliate link pages instead of including affiliate links throughout your site.
There are several good threads on the forum about multiple sites ... try a search for ... managing multiple sites ... for more tips.
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Yaron
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:37 am
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Lea,
What you might want to consider for your second site, is building one that generates income without relying so much on time consuming things like frequent updates, moderated forums, and a newsletter.
Read this for more info:
http://www.associateprograms.com/search/newsletter236.shtml#a2
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Lea
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:04 am
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You guys are the greatest. Thanks heaps for taking the time to respond.
if you want to take a look - feel free. Charlie and Debs have given me some brilliant advice before, and I've tried to incorporate all their suggestions. http://www.fictionfactor.com
Tom asked: | Quote: | too much time on job? 40+ hrs work + 18 hrs getting to and from ? put your website address in your sig line so we can take a look. might be a way to make more $$$,with what you have now.
Running Google AdSense ads? |
Yes - AdSense is wonderful and still growing so far (been with AdSense since July 2003). Yes - I'm working a 40 hour/week job + 10 hrs travel time. And yes - I also have a home and a husband to care for.
Most of the time spent on the existing site is research for new, original content.
Debs said: | Quote: | | The major trick is time management and being organized. |
Thanks for the suggestions Debs. I'll do the search you recommended at once. The newsletter I have currently is "plug & send" set-up already. I've streamlined what I can.
Yaron - thanks for the tip. I might see if I can arrange a way for the new site to be less time-intensive.
Thanks once again. I appreciate it.
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Lea
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:14 am
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Yaron - that link you posted led me to a seriously good article that I hadn't read before.
it got me thinking in a BIG way.
I think for this second site, I'm going to take a mixture of all the advice given and build a content-based site - MINUS all the bells and whistles that the first one has. I will try to concentrate on simple, monetizing factors and great content.
I'll post a URL when I have one set up and ready to look at
Thanks again.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:11 am
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Lea,
How about doing the proper thing and putting your site URL's in your sig file and your general discussion in the message.
Alternatively, create a review your site topic.
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Lea
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:30 pm
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| administrator wrote: | Lea,
How about doing the proper thing ...
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My apologies. I didn't realize my post was in error.
I will add the URL to my sig line.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:17 am
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Lea, when you're creating a second site it's helpful if the two themes are related in some way and then you can link naturally to and from each site, helping both sites in the search engines. This will give your second site a quick boost.
I know it's tough working a full-time job and on your Internet business as well. I suppose you've considered looking into ways you could reduce the hours you work, perhaps to three or four days a week to give you more time for your new business?
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t49
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Lea,
A suggestion about your main page:
Get rid of blinking,flipping,curling,flashing,ads and buttons.
Add directory listing. You say that you have "450+ pages of quality content ",but there is no hint of this on your main page.
Think of your main page as a window into your site,but you have covered the window with ads,so no one can see the variety and quality of the merchandise inside. Even at construction sites with plywood walls around them,they cut holes in the walls,so people can see what's going on. Entice people in.Convince them that this is the site that they need,and should bookmark for further visits.
Tom
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I've bookmarked your site.Got a novel inside my head,and maybe it's time to get it out. It's getting a little cluttered in there. 
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:51 am
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| t49 wrote: | Get rid of blinking,flipping,curling,flashing,ads and buttons.
Add directory listing. You say that you have "450+ pages of quality content ",but there is no hint of this on your main page. |
Oh.  I just removed the navigation bar from the left hand side of the site, because it was too long and too cluttered. I opted for the javascripted drop down menu instead. I guess I'll rethink that option.
| AllanGardyne wrote: | | ...it's helpful if the two themes are related in some way and then you can link naturally to and from each site, helping both sites in the search engines. This will give your second site a quick boost. |
bugger. They're not even remotely related. One is a passionate hobby that turned into an almost full time website. The other is my fascination with a completely different topic. I'll need to rethink this...
Thanks again for the tips
Lea
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:27 am
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Lea, it's not essential that your second site be related in some way to the first - it just makes things easier if it does.
Perhaps your second site could be related to a third site one day.
Also, it's helpful if you choose a topic that has valuable keywords - that people are paying high prices for on Google's AdWords. That way, you'll earn more from AdSense.
Once again, this isn't absolutely essential - but it helps a lot.
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Yaron
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:44 pm
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Lea,
Reviewing my old posts, I realized something that might be very important in your case.
Looking at your fictionfactor.com site, it seems you can do much more to optimize it for search engine traffic. I think you can substantially increase your income just by tweaking this one site, which would be easier than starting a whole new one. Having many pages to work with, like you do, will also be very helpful in this case.
I suggest you go from a content creating mode, to a SE optimization mode. You don't need to constantly add new things to your site in order to keep traffic; you might have enough content as it is. (If you do that, remove the line that says when the site was last updated. The last thing you want is something that actually informs visitors your site hasn't been updated in a while.)
The best free source to learn how to bring SE traffic is the SBI Action Guide.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:11 pm
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Dear Lea
I would consider a number of things in your situtaion...
1. Why are you hanging onto your day job?
Unless your day job is either very exciting or helping you get an education that you can one day turn into a future business I would seriously consider quitting... especially as you have already proved your competence in the internet marketing field and as others have already said there is plenty of potential to boost the revenue at your site.
2. What other skills can you use to increase your income
What you may not have considered is that you have other skills that you can use to create an income that will fill in the void of losing your day jobs income.
If I were you I would seriously consider trying to find work as an internet consulant, webmaster, search engine optimiser etc that way you would get the dual benefit of getting more experience and practise in internet marketing (something that you obviously love - how the heck did you build 450 pages of content anyway - thats insane) and you would also be able to work from home and start choosing your own hours...
Perhaps...Ken Evoy's webmaster program would be a good place to start
Anyway hope I have given you some useful ideas.
Kind Regards
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