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victor
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:02 pm
Post subject: Can I copy keywords and write my own article?
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Yes, I am really struggling for keywords.
Can I do exactly what I said in the title? Will I get good rankings? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:18 pm
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What do you mean "copy keywords"?
Do you mean can you go to BillyBob's website, use the keywords they are using to create your own niche and your own unique content?
Then yes... Just keep the content your own.
If that's not what your asking, ask again and clarify a bit for us... 
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victor
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:39 pm
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I copy keywords that top sites use, then use those keywords and write my own articles. I write the articles on my own, but save time from researching keywords.
Will I success? Or if I am unethical, please let me know.
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edburdo
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:00 pm
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The success has nothing to do with your keywords. Success has to do with your attitude and the work you put into it.
Using keywords from other sites is fine. As long as you do like you said and write your own articles.
Just be sure that the keywords are something that you like doing... otherwise it is hard to keep at a site that you don't really care for...
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Debs
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:08 pm
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Ethically I think you would be walking a fine line, but that's me Definitely don't copy their meta tags or meta title.
Create your own meta tags, titles, etc. Copyright violations result when you take the words exactly as they appear ... so changing the tags is a good idea.
Now, just because someone appears at #1, doesn't mean it's because of their keywords, it could be backlinks, on page factors, etc. They may not even get any conversions from the keyphrase they targeted, but other keyphrases that are derived from the original keyphrase and page content.
By taking the time to research a topic, and it's related keyphrases, you increase your chances of converting visitors to do'ers.
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thepoolroom
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:39 pm
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Make a list of all their keywords, and then start plugging them into the search term suggestion tool at Overture. It'll give you a good idea about how many people are searching for them, and what other related words/phrases might be popular.
Combine the new terms you find with the original keywords from the other site, and you've now got your own unique list of keywords to target.
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Gamezing
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Never forget things like just spreading the word via forums, newsgroups, yahoo groups and such that allow it.
I started a members site that has 48 members after starting it 6 days ago and over 1000 posts in the forum...and I am just now receiving visits from the googlebots deep crawls...not even indexed by google yet.
So it depends on the type of site you are making.
Mine is a members site for a certain need that also has affiliate links of various types. Along with a deal I am working out with a company after talking to them for over 2 hours on the phone. They never even had an affiliate program for a great service that they have. I just opened their eyes to affiliate marketing by taking the time to call them. And their site has a very high volume of traffic...but they just never knew.
There are just so many ways...but don't clone someone elses work...make it your own...with a lotta hours and a lotta hard work you will make it. Just remember the LOTTA LONG HOURS....LOTTA HARD WORK...lol...cause that get rich quick over night stuff is basically a pipe dream.
Also a lot of help from people like Debs....Thanks hon your the greatest.
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Charlie
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:34 pm
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| edburdo wrote: | | The success has nothing to do with your keywords. Success has to do with your attitude and the work you put into it. |
I think the choice of keywords do have a lot to do with it - certainly the speed with which the success can come.
| Debs wrote: | | Ethically I think you would be walking a fine line, but that's me |
Just for the record, I'm happy with the ethics. Nothing more than taking inspiration from others, if you ask me - as long as you make the content unique.
| Quote: | | Now, just because someone appears at #1, doesn't mean it's because of their keywords, it could be backlinks, on page factors, etc. They may not even get any conversions from the keyphrase they targeted, but other keyphrases that are derived from the original keyphrase and page content. |
Very true.
Besides, even if they are successful with a certain keyword, doesn't mean you will be with different copy. So many variables.
With the exception of directly typed traffic, I always favour less competitive keywords if I can find them. At least to start with.
Just my opinion,
Charlie.
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edburdo
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:38 pm
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Charlie... that depends on your definition of success...
Defining success as profits, then yes. Keywords are important.
Defining success as traffic/visitors, then keywords aren't as important.
Most people are more concerned with making a profit than just doing this for fun... so keywords can be critical. You want keywords (and your niche) to be something you can write about... and that is profitable...
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Charlie
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:28 pm
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| edburdo wrote: | | Most people are more concerned with making a profit than just doing this for fun... so keywords can be critical. You want keywords (and your niche) to be something you can write about... and that is profitable... |
It reminds me of all those profitable niches I've identified, but haven't got time to research and create content for.
Plus ça change,
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:35 pm
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Rather than copy "keywords that top sites use" I'd look at the themes that top sites concentrate on, then think about what those themes have in common and then come up with your own theme that has those same things in common but isn't currently focused on by a 'top site'.
Then you can be a 'top site' too. Otherwise you'll always be in the shadow of those who went before.
How many online booksellers can you name after amazon?
They all thought it would be a good idea to copy a 'top site'. |
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Charlie
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:08 pm
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| Warburton wrote: | | Rather than copy "keywords that top sites use" I'd look at the themes that top sites concentrate on, then think about what those themes have in common and then come up with your own theme that has those same things in common but isn't currently focused on by a 'top site'. |
Everyone goes on about niches, but I think differentiation ("uniqueness" not calculus) is the key...
Make yourself stand out. Maybe it's posiible to get noticed by being unorthodox or controversial in a more generic field, as well as drilling down to a niche.
Whatever you do, make sure you stand out in a positive way.
Cheers,
Charlie.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:45 pm
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It's fair use if you take a small string of words, but be careful with trademarked words, and don't take full sentences and paragraphs. Personally, I think people here obsess too much about keywords. In the time you've spend obsessing about keywords you could have created several new pages of content for your site, and you might surprise yourself with the keywords Google thinks are important on that page, and bring you traffic you didn't imagine.
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