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StrayPixel
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:00 am
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| carpunky, im *extremely* interested in your early results. Im very much thinking of doing just the same. How are things looking so far? |
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Trekkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:58 pm
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Carpunky,
here's a tip for your site:
You're obviously targeting gamers with that page, but there's a major problem here. A gamer (like myself) arrives at your site and reads the following line:
"Games like Everquest , Quake , Team Fortress and Half-life certainly put a strain on your computer."
At that point I would know there's something wrong with this site, because the games you mention are all 5+ years old. Just about any computer in the world could be used to play them. So I'd know that you either don't know what you're talking about or that the site is seriously outdated, and I would probably leave right away.
Any gamer in the world would know this, so if you want to capture them you should use newer games in those sentences (there's another one further down). I figured from this thread that "Half-Life" could be an important keyword for you, so why not use "Half-Life 2" instead?
Yes, the sequel to Half-Life is going to be released sometime this year, and it's going to be a big hit. Plus, that game will definitely require a high-end system so it would perfectly fit your theme. Just be sure that you only recommend high-end hardware relating to that game, as that's what people interested in this game are going to want to buy.
You could do similar things with the other game titles, if they are important keywords to you:
"Games like Everquest 2, Quake 4, Team Fortress 2 and Half-Life 2 are certainly going to put a strain on your computer."
As to Quake 4, it will probably take another 1-2 years until that one is going to be released, so you might want to use "Quake 3" instead, but that game is about 3 or 4 years old so not a great choice either...
I don't know how important these games are to you in terms of keywords. But you might want to look into games that are more popular right now. Also, two other titles you might want to consider to put in your list are "FarCry" and "Doom 3" - these are very likely top hit games that are also going to be released this year, and they are very "hardware hungry" as well. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:08 pm
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| carpunky wrote: |
This site has approximatley 1600 + links coming into it according to market leap popularity checker thingofamajig. I'm not counting on hits from the link in's but we will see how it goes.
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Jeff,
Where do you see those 1600+ links coming in?
An AllTheWeb.com lookup showed 78 pages linking into gamerforge.net,
and according to Alexa, there are 22 sites linking in.
Am I missing something here?
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Yaron |
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blakekr
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:14 pm
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He's using the marketleap tool which is supposed to be pretty reliable, I think.
Marketleap sez:
www.gamerforge.net (links): 1,841 1,786 27 0 14 14
Marketleap tool is here:
http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/default.htm
I always check Marketleap when researching a domain. I think I'd die on the spot if an available domain had over 500 incoming links.
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Yaron
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:25 pm
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| blakekr wrote: | He's using the marketleap tool which is supposed to be pretty reliable, I think.
Marketleap sez:
www.gamerforge.net (links): 1,841 1,786 27 0 14 14
Marketleap tool is here:
http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/default.htm
I always check Marketleap when researching a domain. I think I'd die on the spot if an available domain had over 500 incoming links. |
Well, I checked marketleap.com,
And it says something like this for gamerforge.net:
Alltheweb: 2138
AltaVista: 33
Google/AOL: 0
HotBot/Inktomi: 21
MSN: 20
Total: 2212
So Market Leap takes its results from search engines. And the vast majority of this large link count is from Alltheweb.
(Why the total is useful is beyond me since all those search engines spider the same World Wide Web, and therefore there would be considerable overlap between them.)
Each number is a hyperlink to the respective search engine, and clicking on Alltheweb's number brings you to this URL:
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?avkw=fogg&cat=web&cs=utf-8&q=link.all%3Agamerforge.net
So it's a query for "link.all:gamerforge.net".
I inspected those links, and my conclusion is that the vast majority is useless. Nearl all of the links that Jeff didn't add after he got the domain (you can tell because the link description is relevant to his site) are old forum posts. Most of those pages don't exist anymore, and it beats me why Alltheweb says there is a link there. Many other pages exist but don't actually have a link, and it beats me again why Alltheweb includes them. Some pages have a reference to a gamerforge.net domain, but it's in an email address.
I therefore don't think the large number of links would be of much use, as far as Web site traffic is concerned. It doesn't seem to help much for page rank either, as the index page of gamerforge.net has a rank of 2. A site with 2000+ "real" links should be having it's page rank going through the roof.
By the way, my earlier figure of 78 links from Alltheweb came from searching on "links:gamerforge.net". Any idea what the difference between a "links" and a "link" search means?
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carpunky
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:26 am
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| Quote: | | You're obviously targeting gamers with that page, but there's a major problem here. A gamer (like myself) arrives at your site and reads the following line: |
I have No choice with a site name like that !
I have been playing EQ since beta and trust me if you know anything about EQ with the expansions it is impossible to play the game on a average computer ! I have had to update my puter on almost every expansion ! I'm not sure about the rest of the games but I have played them all . ( EQ is not out of date )
This site DID NOT originate from me, I just SLOPPED a page up to capture the hits for my adds ( not mentioning what adds ) , It was bought for $20 and is bringing in over 100 unique per day.
I will , however , when I get a chance update the page . It is just a free traffic page no more, no less .
I have not done anything with this site other than post the link on here !
Yaron,
I hope you guys were not thinking that I was trying to pull the wool over someones eyes. This is not the case, however,you are correct , there is only about 12 useful links that I am currently getting hits from even though market leap is showing massive amounts of links.
Also, the 2 pr is probally my fault in the poor page content . Anyways, this was posted for this reason. I figure it was a good testament of a expired domain name and there capabilities. I am happy with the $20 purchase and the free traffic .
P.S I will probally offer this domain as incentive to gain forum posters to my new site when it gets going.
Thanks
Jeff
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edburdo
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:04 am
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EQ is still out and going strong. So is DAoC. Both require a pretty hefty machine to run with full graphics. DAoC is about 3 years old... EQ is about 5. But they do need a good machine.
EQ II is coming out soon, SWG (Star Wars Galaxies) is out and requires a hefty machine to run. And DAoC has some new expansions coming out soon also.
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Trekkie
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:57 pm
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I wouldn't say EverQuest requires a hefty machine, however I can't comment on that extensively since I haven't played the newer expansions. I would guess that a pretty low-end system (for today's standards) should be enough, as long as the Internet connection is fast. But then again, I could be wrong.  You should probably know better.
However, the other games you mentioned are definitely outdated. You said you were just happy with the free traffic. But I definitely think that you could get much more out of it if your site looks like the author knows about current gaming trends. So I'd really consider at least changing some of the game titles to newer ones.
Oliver
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edburdo
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:04 pm
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We are getting off topic here, but that's OK.
EQ starting with the Scars of Velious requires a High end P3 and agood video card. And to run the higher resolutions, you want at least a 9600 Pro on a P4. (or Athlon equivalent).
But the other games mentioned are older... I play Rise of Nations sometimes. I have a 64 MB Kyro II card, on a 1.8 ghz Athlon with 512 MB Ram. And it bogs down... and this is a realtime strategy game, not even anything super flashy....
Oh btw, internet speed doesn't really affect your online game playing. It only affects the download times for new content and patches. Ping times are more important. I have had better play times from a dial-up modem than broadband. The current level of online games are built to run on a 56k connection.
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Yaron
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:24 pm
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| carpunky wrote: |
Yaron,
I hope you guys were not thinking that I was trying to pull the wool over someones eyes. |
I was not thinking that at all. I just thought you didn't realize, as well as others reading this thread, that the link count you obtained is highly inflated. I came to this conclusion by going to the source of that link count, i.e. Alltheweb.com, and looking at some of the linking pages it comes up with. Many of those didn't exist anymore, and many others did not have a link to your domain on them.
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