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flexprimo
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Dotdash, I'm guessing you're part of the "SBI Response Team" - the team of SBIers who protect the reputation of SBI from all the naysayers and flamers around the internet 
I'm always amazed at the amount of time and effort people put into defending their favorite "system". You see it here for SBI, the James Martell board has it's defenders and most other systems have them too.
In my opinion, if you follow any system blindly at best you're leaving money on the table by not doing all you can with your site(s) and at worst you're clinging to a sinking ship (not saying SBI is - far from it, but many people follow systems that are long past their prime).
I hesitate to put all my eggs in one basket, whether that basket is SBI or something else. In the long run, your business should never be at the mercy of someone else's resources.
If something were ever to happen to Sitesell, all those SBI sites would be in trouble. If I've got sites hosted in various places, built with stand-alone software, they're much easier to move to somewhere new if something goes wrong.
It's much the same as earning all your income from Adsense. It might be lucrative now but if Google ever changes the rules, all that income could dry up overnight.
I'm more confident using SBI for one site and building other sites along with it, with different methods. |
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dotdash
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Dotdash, I'm guessing you're part of the "SBI Response Team" - the team of SBIers who protect the reputation of SBI from all the naysayers and flamers around the internet |
Lol the purpose is more to correct factually incorrect information for those that read the thread.
I'm getting my education from SBI! I have 3 other websites that are not doing much at all at the moment, right now my blinkers are firmly on while I learn from the best.
There will always be naysayers and flamers about any system that works - but when people start saying things that just are completely inaccurate the record does need to be set straight
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charles
Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Depends if you want to build a big successful site with long term free traffic (and lots of it) that will never have problem with SE algorith updates |
Now I don't have a dog in this race...but why are so many SBI'ers crying "Google has dropped all my pages" or "Google hates me" or "MSN and Yahoo have dropped most of my pages"
I have no complaints with my SBI site. I like it! I also like my XSP too. Oh and I like blues, jazz, bluegrass, western swing, etc. Lots of bickering on music forums about pure forms of music too. It's a no winner. But I'm not SBI's public defender. If I were to publicly defend something, it would be for a much bigger cause than who has the best web building suite of tools. |
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msteneker
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| charles wrote: | | Now I don't have a dog in this race...but why are so many SBI'ers crying "Google has dropped all my pages" or "Google hates me" or "MSN and Yahoo have dropped most of my pages" |
 I was one of them... Until I realized that after Google and Yahoo and MSN were ready with their tweaking, my site was having same or better rankings than before. And as my site ages, it doesn't even drop in rankings anymore!
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dotdash
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Like I said in an earlier post "whatever floats your boat"....
It's when people post grossly uninformed and utterly inaccurate statements like:
| Quote: | And you can't denied that SBI uses FREE overture and wordtracker results for keyword research smartly calling it - Brainstorm It! You can get the same results from NicheBot, for example absoulutly for free.
Also there is no flexibility with keyword research. You can't import/export excel files, analyze so deeply competitors like Keyword Elite and SEO Elite wich are superb tools in my opinion. |
That the record needs to be put straight.
The SE algorithm thing affects everyone, but in the long term it's not a problem for those who follow the SBI! method of link building and SEO.
It's fine that someone decides that SBI! is not for them, the flaming, naysaying and attacking we can deal with as well. But posting untruths about the tools and process on a public forum should not go unanswered IMO.
It's not like the original poster is an ex SBI user with a gripe, he's making sweeping statements that are simply just not true.
If he has a friend who owns SBI I think he should actually take a look (see days 2 and 3 of the action guide/brainstorm it help/MKL tips and techniques) before posting up any more 'facts' about what SBI! does and doesn't do....
It's the posting up of sweeping 'facts' that cause the 'public defence' and I think anyone would do the same, and many people do when their product gets misrepresented on a public forum.
You can see it all over this forum.
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TonyT
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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For my only three-month old site, I'm pretty happy with my 3733 visits this month, as of yesterday's stats.
The proof is in the pudding:
http://compare.sitesell.com/
http://buildit.sitesell.com/main/tools.html
http://results.sitesell.com
I'm here to help people (the way Allan helped me find SiteSell), not win a debate. The one thing that cannot be argued with is the success I'm seeing. It's right in front of my eyeballs every morning and it's exciting. You do things however you like. I'd rather concentrate on the business of creating my site and leave the technical, SEO, blah blah crap to SiteSell. Being in web design professionally for seven years, I've finally found my nirvana.
Of course, if you need a hand or any question, feel free to contact me through my site.
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Declan OReilly
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| BookieMaster wrote: | | You have to be creative, come with new ideas and be original...The all noise about SBI is too big. |
I thought that this was an interesting statement and then I took a look at your website and found this...
| Quote: | I Developed My Very Own, Unique Way To Earn Up To 1000 GBP in less than 3 days!
* All you need is a PC with an internet access
* System works 24 hours a day
* You can choose to work 10 minutes or 8 hours a day |
A bit of a contradiction here don't ya think?
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TonyT
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BookieMaster
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Declan OReilly wrote: | | BookieMaster wrote: | | You have to be creative, come with new ideas and be original...The all noise about SBI is too big. |
I thought that this was an interesting statement and then I took a look at your website and found this...
| Quote: | I Developed My Very Own, Unique Way To Earn Up To 1000 GBP in less than 3 days!
* All you need is a PC with an internet access
* System works 24 hours a day
* You can choose to work 10 minutes or 8 hours a day |
A bit of a contradiction here don't ya think? |
Let me clear some things here - I'm not saying that SBI isn't good and sorry if I misunderstood some things from what my friend said.
I didn't start this topic for fight between SBI owners and others, I just wanted to know - what's so special and unique about it? And as far as I see - nothing that can't be done other way...
About my site - It's my first site an I know it's far from perfect but please don't judge the system if you don't know anything about it. Because it's not about - how to make living out of internet. It's simply shows how to earn some money from one loophole in the betting industry. At least I'm not selling it and people who are in betting, will see that my system is working.
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TonyT
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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"I just wanted to know - what's so special and unique about it? And as far as I see - nothing that can't be done other way..."
I'm a web designer, too, so I know exactly what you, personally, have to do to get results for your web site. I can speak solidly about my old way and the way I do it now with SBI. I'm expending a quarter of the effort that I use to doing it the "old-fashioned" way and seeing better results, many times over. I no longer have to be a jack-of-all trades dealing with everything to make my business a success. I've been able to get off the hamster wheel. All I do now is concentrate on building my site and following the process to make it a success. Allan doesn't promote it because it's not terrific.
I've been on both sides of the web design fence and I'll take SBI, hands-down every time.
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dotdash
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | please don't judge the system if you don't know anything about it. |
That makes me smile
| Quote: | | what's so special and unique about it? And as far as I see - nothing that can't be done other way... |
Please don't make sweeping statements on public forums based on "as far as I can see"
Good luck with your gambling book.
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BookieMaster
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Why it makes you smile?
Are you telling me that people can't say what they think on public forums? Then take a look in dictionary what word "forum" means. Thanks!
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dotdash
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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What made me smile was you asking someone not to judge a system they knew nothing about.
You can say what you want mate, but if it's factually incorrect you probably *shouldn't* say it - for your own credibility.
You said:
| Quote: | | please don't judge the system if you don't know anything about it. |
Which is exactly what you've been doing about SBI! this whole thread - that is what made me smile.
This is getting really tired and boring shall we all just move on? We've all got businesses to work on haven't we
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BookieMaster
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING to all other forum members! I just wanted to know what's so unique about SBI!!!
But what I get? blah blah type sales letters here... And don't say me that SBI is the best tool for keyword research because it isn't! If you will take 10 keywords and do research with Overture, Wordtracker and Keyword Discovery you will see - where is the diffrenece.
Huuuu, I'm tired as well - let's stop this non-sense
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dotdash
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Huuuu, I'm tired as well - let's stop this non-sense |
/agreed!
We should talk about this over a pint - I like guiness, unfortunately we don't get the good stuff over here(London).
Sending you a PM
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