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BookieMaster



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: What's so unique about SBI? Reply with quote

I really don't understand what's so unique in SBI? Currently I'm looking forward to buy XsitePro. I think XsitePro offers all the same tools to build succesfull online business for less money.
If you really put a good job in SEO with any website builder you will get results. And you will not become succesfull affilate only because you will have SBI!
If I'm wrong, please clear my mind because I'm new to all this stuff.

Thanks

P.S.The thing that SBI uses Overture reasults for keyword research simply scares me off!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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P.S.The thing that SBI uses Overture reasults for keyword research simply scares me off!


Who told you that?

Brainstorm it! uses overture and wordtracker and calculates profitability for both.

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I think XsitePro offers all the same tools to build succesfull online business for less money.


This is also not true, XsitePro is just a web building tool like dreamweaver with some templates and an on page SEO analyser and a few other nifty features for affiliate sites.

SBI! has everything you need to build a long term successful business, keyword researching, page building, on-page SEO analyser, tracking facilities that don't just tell you your web stats but monitors how your keywords are doing in all the major SEs, an autoresponder, monetize it (which I haven't used yet but someone will be able to explain the benefits of that).

All this with the only manuals and instructions you will need, a video action guide and a very very productive and helpful forum.

There's more than that as well.

No one else is doing that Sitesell does or providing so much value for so little money.

Who told you about the overture thing and that XsitePro does the same thing?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Overture - a friend of mine has SBI and he told me that it uses overture results for keyword research.
In my opinion, you have to use best tools for each task not all-in-one solutions.
*I have Aweber, so SBI autoresponder is useless for me
*For keyword research I use Keyword Discovery, simply because it's best in a field.
*I have a flat fee hosting package for as many websites I want to host
*I got all the manuals - there is no miracle - you can get such a info on internet for free.

Now, why I have to invest in SBI?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotdash wrote:
There's more than that as well.


One of the other things you get is a whole lot of rather fanatical users. I have an SBI site that does okay, but the one thing I really don't like about it is the attitude of "put on your blinders - you don't need anything else" that runs through a lot of the information both from Sitesell and from the user community.

The forum can be a helpful place, but any questions or comments that come up regarding "other" methods or tools tend to get a "you don't need that - SBI does it all" answer.

SBI provides a lot of useful tools and information, but it's not a magic bullet. Just like with any other method, you'll find people who follow the process to the letter and still don't see great results. There are just too many factors that can affect your success.

In my opinion, it pays to read other information and test other methods to find what works best for you. Some of these things can be integrated into the SBI system, some can't.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the other things you get is a whole lot of rather fanatical users.


Hi, a fanatical user here Wink but I?d rather think of myself as a raving fan.

As regards the ?Put on the blinders? comment, yes that does get used but it is said to try and stop someone getting distracted by something that really won?t advance their business.

Nothing can provide absolutely everything, though imo SBI comes very close, and if there is something out there that could be useful to an SBI?er Ken does provide information and a link to it(often at a discount) in the resources section.

You are correct Flexprimo, SBI is not a ?magic bullet? it does require a very important additional ingredient ? the users determination to use it to it?s best effect, and that does mean putting in the graft. And sometimes to achieve that end you have to put on the blinders Wink

Hi BookieMaster,

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About Overture - a friend of mine has SBI and he told me that it uses overture results for keyword research.


Your friend did you a little disservice methinks if he/she did not tell you that SBI also uses WT. And has plenty of extra very neat ways of bringing back keyword information that I would be surprised if you found elsewhere.

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Now, why I have to invest in SBI?


You don?t, you don?t have to invest in anything. There are many ways of achieving success, SBI is but one of them. But personally I would not like to attempt to succeed without it. It does so much for me and that leaves me more time to build my business.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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About Overture - a friend of mine has SBI and he told me that it uses overture results for keyword research.
In my opinion, you have to use best tools for each task not all-in-one solutions.


The brainstorming tools use a lot more than overture, for instance have a look at search it! and see all the options for different keyword searches. This is a complementary step to the overture, wordtracker and Google top 100/200 lateralized searches and this is before Monetize it! introduces even more keyword brianstorming options.

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*For keyword research I use Keyword Discovery, simply because it's best in a field.


Nope.... Brainstorm It! is a far superior product, I've used both.

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*I got all the manuals - there is no miracle - you can get such a info on internet for free.


No one said that the info in SBI! is unique or miraculous (unlike many other how-to manuals and GRQ tat) however I'm not sure if there are manuals such as MYCPS and MYLW anywhere else, I haven't found any.

The SBI! C-T-P-M method is a long drawn out process that to no one else I know of teaches, it's very thorough and step by step and the manuals/video guides are better than any other ebook,video etc I've seen - and I've seen a lot.

As far as SBI! blinkers, I'm glad I've got them now, I wasted a few months trying other stuff, bought and read all kinds of things - I have aweber, and XsitePro, and SEO elite and goodness knows how many ebooks. I've now completely unsubscribed from just about all the newsletters I was getting all trying to sell me rehashed info week in week out (see post about gurus repackaging old info in general affiliate forum), I like my blinkers, I just focus on my business.

BookieMaster I really think you need to see whether SBI! is for you and know a bit more about it before slamming it so hard.

Read some of the free resources like the affiliate masters course (link in Allan's 18 step tutorial), the netwriters masters course and have a look around the sitesell website.

Compare the cost of SBI! to:

XsitePro
Aweber (for 1 year)
1 year of Hosting
Domain name
*instruction manuals*
Other keyword research tools

I know you'll say 'yeah but I can have 100 sites instead of just 1!' and you're right but take it from me - if you're starting out and learning it all, focusing on more than 1 site is not the way to go.

Yup I made that mistake as well..

Allan has said it somewhere that there's no point trying to make lots of sites work if you haven't got the hang of getting 1 working to it's full potential.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotdash wrote:
Alan has said it somewhere that there's no point trying to make lots of sites work if you haven't got the hang of getting 1 working to it's full potential.

Who's this Alan guy? He sounds pretty smart.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Allan, posted that last one after a stint of sleeping on the sofa in front of a nature documentary Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's OK. I'm used to it. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have aweber, and XsitePro, and SEO elite and goodness knows how many ebooks.


Then tell me - what's wrong with XsitePro, Aweber and SEO elite? I think they are very good products.

And I'm not saying that SBI isn't good - just it is not the ONLY solution.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one is saying that SBI! is the only solution.

XsitePro and Aweber are good tools that do exactly what they say on the tin. SEOElite is something I wish had never bought, it may work for some people but the methodology behind it is just not for me.

There is nothing wrong with XSitePro or Aweber, but personally I am not using them, I am focusing 100% on my SBI! site with absolutely no distractions.

Given the choice of how I spend my time building my business that decision is a complete no brainer. The suite of tools, the step by step guides and the whole process is without a shadow of doubt the absolute best value for money for what it is. Nothing else comes even remotely close to the quality that SBI! overdelivers.

Yeah of course you can be successful using other tools, but for me personally I've found something that is the best fit for how I choose to spend time building MY business. I like to stay on the right side of 80/20, not be one of these people spending 10 hours a day jumping from program to program trying to figure out why they're not making any money or nearly enough.

SBI! may not float your boat, it depends on what your intentions are, how much work you're prepared to put in, if you're in for the long haul and build a long term sustainable business or if you just want to 'make money online'. A lot of people (I'm not suggesting you just stating a fact) are in for easy money and shortcuts, SBI! is certainly not for them.

In answer to the whole SBI! vs. Other tools + instruction manuals? depends really on the manuals and process followed. Depends if you want to build a big successful site with long term free traffic (and lots of it) that will never have problem with SE algorith updates or if you want to start knocking out minisites and play the PPC traffic game - that doesn't appeal to me at all.

Have you looked at the affiliate masters course or any of the other free resources from sitesell? You can use your already bought investments and still follow C-T-P-M with the free manuals and tools - that is an example of how SBI! overdelivers which is a core concept of what we are taught and it's taught by example.

Whatever floats your boat mate - I know what floats mine and I've tried a few.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the fact that all tools of SBI work alike, and they all work together. Just like I like to work with one Office suite, and not a hotch-potch of applications thrown together.

It's just a matter of a learning curve that is less steep.

Just my $0.02!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for friendly advice Very Happy
Anyway, I will stay with XsitePro and other tools I allready have. I have 3 websites builded with Frontpage (yeah, I know - stupid me:-) and I need to re-build them. For me the best way to go will be XsitePro.
And you can't denied that SBI uses FREE overture and wordtracker results for keyword research smartly calling it - Brainstorm It! You can get the same results from NicheBot, for example absoulutly for free.
Also there is no flexibility with keyword research. You can't import/export excel files, analyze so deeply competitors like Keyword Elite and SEO Elite wich are superb tools in my opinion.
By reading SBI forum I got feeling that too many people are some kind of SBI manual slaves - they can't think outside of the box - wich is big disadvantage. You have to be creative, come with new ideas and be original. They are blindly following Kens (biggest respect to him) manuals and advice but if something in real life is different they get confused.
Just my touhgts - The all noise about SBI is too big.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi BookieMaster,

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And you can't denied that SBI uses FREE overture and wordtracker results for keyword research smartly calling it - Brainstorm It! You can get the same results from NicheBot, for example absoulutly for free.


Well, I can deny it but I shan?t bother, I?ll just say that Brainstorm It! goes far beyond NicheBot (as handy as NicheBot is).

Good luck to you however you build your business.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you can't denied that SBI uses FREE overture and wordtracker results for keyword research smartly calling it - Brainstorm It! You can get the same results from NicheBot, for example absoulutly for free.


I'm a bit tired of pointing out what Larry said as well, wherever you're getting your info from you should at least know enough about it to make statements like that.... Rolling Eyes

Nichebot gives the complementary 25 results for each search that WT give on their site anyway- for the free searches...

Wordtracker is not a free service, not to actually get the most out of it.

BI comes with 25 full WT searches included(up to 1000 keywords per search). BI does a lot more than that, and when you combine it with Search It! and Monetize it! well.. lets just say Nichebot and other keyword tools pale in comparison.

It's fine that you've decided that SBI! is not for you I'm starting to agree with you on that point at least, but if you're going to slam it and try and compare it to other products at least know the facts.

Good luck with your ventures.
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