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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:57 pm
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Hi,
I have just put up a new site and submitted the index page to Google.
I have noticed from my logs that Googlebot has visited my index page every day since I submitted it, but hasn't indexed any of the many pages on my site that link to the index page.
Is this usual? i.e. for Googlebot to visot every day, before doing a full index?
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:35 pm
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Quite common for new sites. If you want Googlebot to go deeper into your site, get some links into your site, some to your main page, and some to other pages.
Also make sure you have a sitemap and submit that to Google as well.
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:44 pm
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Debs,
What ya mean by a site map ? Are you referring to main menu pages for your site like on a index page in the menu area ?
Do I need to Create a site map ?
I really dont think Im getting spidered !
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:56 am
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YES you need a sitemap ... a sitemap contains a link (I also recommend an unlinked sentence or two for each page) to each page of your site. You link to your sitemap from all pages on your site (like you do your main "home" or "index" page.
The SE's love sitemaps, it moves a lot of your pages closer to the home page, and it is a great useability feature for people who can't see your graphics, or want to "jump" to where they want to go, instead of you leading them.
Do keep your sitemap to 50 links or less (that also includes any other text links on your page outside the actual sitemap part). I use several sitemaps on my site broken down by the 3 primary categories. It helps visitors, it helps with SE's (I am in the top 10 for all 3 of my sitemaps on several of the SE's including Google). Plus I get a lot of feedback from visitors about how easy my site is to navigate. So it's win win for me and can be for you too.
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:04 am
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Thanks Debs,
Would you be able to link me your site map, so I can see a example ?
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:21 am
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My site is in my profile and the sitemaps are the top of the page links (besides the home page).
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:29 am
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Is the site map differ from a menu ? Is it the same thing as my menu on the left of my page ?
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:59 am
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Hello Jeff.
| carpunky wrote: | | Is the site map differ from a menu ? Is it the same thing as my menu on the left of my page ? |
The left menu and site map are completely different things...
The left menu (which probably appears on most pages) is a quick way for humans to find important pages (and could well use graphical links that the SEs can't follow).
The site map is a page on your site that contains links to each page on your site together with a brief description of each page. (If you have more than 100 pages split this into several pages.) These must be static text links that the SEs can follow.
The main job of the sitemap is to assist the SE spiders when crawling your site, but make it usable by humans, too. Give a text link to the sitemap from your homepage, so the SEs can find it.
Hope this helps,
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:27 pm
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Charlie and Debs,
Is this kinda of what you mean, I changed my menu on the left to a css style. Below is the test page, of course I still have to change the background and add the links but will this be SE more friendly than the buttons that I was using ?
http://www.home-decorating-designs.com/test.htm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:31 pm
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Jeff,
At least the SEs will be able to follow the links in the left nav bar now, since they are text links.
Two things though...
Change "Home" and "Tips and Hints" to the principle phrase that the destination page is optimised for. (I know it can be tricky fitting them in with menu bars, but it's important for any SE-followable links.)
Similarly with all those "read more" links. The anchor text needs to correspond with the page contents if you want to help Google help you.
Lastly, where is that site map? Link to it from the homepage.
Cheers,
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:35 pm
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I ditto Charlie 
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:44 pm
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| Quote: | | Lastly, where is that site map? Link to it from the homepage. |
Still confused , I thought that would be the site map if it was included on each page ( as long as it wasnt Jpg files ). Whats the differ between having it at the top like debs page and in the left table ?
It also does'nt seem to be displaying correctly for mozilla,so there goes that menu out the window. Any suggestions on where to find code for a good site map or menu css generating site !
could you point me to a good example of what exactly you guys are trying explain to me that I'm not grasping ?
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:49 pm
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| carpunky wrote: |
could you point me to a good example of what exactly you guys are trying explain to me that I'm not grasping ?
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Hope to put some insight into this:
A sitemap has two purposes:
aa) help a user to find what he is looking or (in case you don't have a sitesearch function)
bb) help finding SE robots/spiders the pages deep inside your site
Usually it takes spiders a long time to spider the pages hidden in deep directory structures. So a sitemap that is only one link away from the homepage and lists all pages inside the side, makes getting indexed by SEs much easier.
You can create a detailed sitemap with correct page titles as mentioned above (probably improves the ranking of the linked page for the keyphrase in the link text) or justmake a simple map that has page1, page two etc as link text. both ways work. but using the fist way with also keeping aa) in mind, is much better.
Hope this helps a little in gettingmore confused
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:58 pm
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Thanks Everyone,
A light finally clicked on...sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't . ( These are one of my nut days )
ok..Got IT
Anyone got any good suggestions on a good template site that has css stlyes ..I have been searching for 2 hours but really cant find anything good. I'm looking for something like Debs template.
Thanks Alot again
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