Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 133 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: Is the value of Article publishing diminishing??
Well that's the question. We do hear a lot - that links from article authors' resource box don't count anymore and so many things...
We used to publish articles on articles and then we stopped for sometime but now we want to start again. Does publishing articles (with links to our website) on article directories have any value in promoting our website, search engine ranking etc ??
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 133 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject:
That's true - the quality has to be good.
I understand that if the quality of the article is good then a human visitor will visit your website. DO search engines consider the links from these article directories valuable in page rank, search engine ranking etc.??
I feel that yes, the value of article writing is diminishing MARKEDLY, at least doing it the old way.
The old way: write an article, mass-distribute it via isnare or whatever, sit back and wait for the links to roll in.
I don't think this happens anymore. And I'm not talking about crappy articles, I mean I don't think it happens with GOOD articles either. My hit rate is much lower these days and my articles are much better.
My guess is that a big factor is RSS. Many of the people that used to manually post free content to their sites to pad or fill them out have moved to automation. I see my articles roll onto a bunch of sites and roll right off again the next day or week. A lot fewer people in my niche are searching for free content to publish permanently.
I think you have to be smarter now.
On the other hand, I just got queried by a real reporter based on one of my articles! It's so exciting; I know this happens to people all the time but it's the first time it happened to me. So maybe that will involve a high quality link or two ...
PS, I would love to hear from Phil or Allan on this. Hint hint _________________ - blake
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The easiest way to see if the links was counted is to have a look at your back links on Yahoo SE. I am submiting into aproximately 200 dirs and I see results from about 20 article dirs.
What is worst is that Google didn't cached most of this pages so I don't believe that Google counts this links. _________________ Ivan
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: SE ranking may be impacted by use of articles
According to SEO Predictions (speculation on SE developments by leading SEO figures...), the use of Articles, Press Releases ,etc may have a detrimental impact on your search engine rankings. The SE's are looking for UNIQUE content and so, any 'duplicate' content of this kind may be penalised. _________________ Bill Cowan
It is not only resource box that makes your article a nice helper.
Don't forget about good article title. If you use proper keywords in the article title, then many sites and directories will name the page with this article using your title.
I know that Yahoo loves titles, MSN seems to be nice too.
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the use of Articles, Press Releases ,etc may have a detrimental impact on your search engine rankings
Heard this too, and most probably search engines will try to implement something. But this is a very vague practise - so many real businesses and famous Internet marketers use articles and press releases. How SEs will be picking good from bad?
The value of good article is always good. If it educates, if it opens new horizons, shows new ideas - this article will have effect. _________________ 100% Free Reciprocal Link Exchange Script
It's certainly true that the quality of the article makes a difference, but it is also the way the article is promoted. As they say, promote or die....
Just submitting to the free and cheap article directories, is of course, losing it's attractiveness. Not all of them are esteemed highly by the search engines. You also run the risk by submitting THE SAME EXACT ARTICLE to so many directories to have your article shuffled down to the bottom of the Search Engine SERPs as duplicate content.
Best thing to do is to create your own blog and keep it's content fresh long enough to earn a good Google PR (5 or better). Then when you create articles, post them on one of your tight niche sites, and then blog about it using a re-written snippet on your blog about your article, with a link both to the exact article page, and a link to the home page of the tight niche site.
When done, then rewrite the article somewhat, and submit it to EzineArticles.com (at least). This is the best one right now, although you can submit it to others, this site gets the best PR from the search engines right now. And by submitting it once, you won't have any duplicate content problems.
There is so much misinformation floating around out there about duplicate content and what happens if you use it that I figured I'd pop in and say that most of what you hear is wrong...plain and simple. Duplicate content isn't the problem. Exact duplicate content is.
If you take an article that you submitted to multiple article directories, and then use the EXACT same content to make your webpage, then of course it's duplicate and you deserve to have that page end up in the sandbox or banned from the serps.
But if you make simple additions and tweaks to that webpage where the article is on, poof...no more duplicate content. Let's analyze one of my webpages and I'll show you what I mean:
1. I'll generally have a section of 2 or 3 rss feeds for content that are topic related.
2. I have another section where I'll stick an amazon feed using a product called Associate Feed Generator.
3. My navigational links are considered content. They are on the side and bottom of the webpage.
4. I'll stick 3 to 4 short article snippets to other articles at the bottom of the main article in a horizontal fashion, to motivate someone to click the "read more" link under the snippets to read other articles on the site.
5. I'll link to two authority sites. Again...here is additional content.
6. Then the h1 tag is modified slightly and another short paragraph is added at the beginning of the article. I don't do this for all articles though.
7. In the middle of the article, I'll stick a short sentence in a rectangular box that'll say something like "If you like what you've read so far, you may enjoy reading about "blah, blah, blah" here". Then I may link to a clickbank affiliate product or another article on the site.
8. I have my signup box in the right hand column.
See what I mean? The article is barely touched, but the stuff around the article is totally different than what was submitted to an article directory. The search engines look at the ENTIRE webpage, not only the words that make up the article.
And to continue on, I have some sites that have Article Miner (AM) articles. You may remember that software. Now on these articles, I don't alter the h1 tag, add a first paragraph, or add a middle, because I can't. The article is pulled from the huge article database on my harddrive. So I'm not going to go in and alter h1, 1st paragraph, and middle for each AM article.
Anyway...what I'm getting at is that when I look at my stats, AM articles are surely being visited. I know this because the AM articles end in php. My regular articles end in htm. So at a glance, I can tell my AM articles are getting visitors. And there are probably lots of folks using those articles on their sites. At least all AM customers who are in the same niche are probably using 'em. And at least one directory, probably more, has the same articles in their database.
Now obviously if you buy from plr services, then you need to alter an article substantially for the sake of the article directory you're submitting to, but in terms of adding it to your site, even if you've submitted it all over the place, no worries IF your webpage incorporates additional quality content on it where your article is.
So for people out there trying to decide if duplicate content is a no-no or not, a better statement would be to say that "EXACT duplicate content is a no-no." Good luck.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: Google never counts links from Author resource box
I've submitted few articles to around 50 articles directories and thro articlemarketer.com too. After about 2 months, I received only about 10 mails or so saying approved. But when I search using my article title it shows more than 300 in google( The article is my original one not scraped from any article sites)
But Google back link count never improved, So I doubt whether google really counts links in Author resource box? Any expert's opinions plz, if I'm wrong!
When I do a comparison of links to my team-schuman.com website I see 1190 according to Google and 8870 according to Yahoo. 11,578 links according to MSN. So there is quite a variance here.
I read an interesting article today by Chris Knight from ezinearticles.com on how article writing is still in it's infancy. He was actually contacted by American Express for permission to run one of his articles he wrote in 1998. So these things have a long shelf life and you never know who is looking at them and from when. _________________ Jeff Schuman
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Looks like I'm following your trail of posts. Yeah...I read that article about Amex and Chris. Cool! It's amazing how truly effective writing articles can be if it's done correctly. Good content stays around forever.
Cheers,
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Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 432 Location: Imperial, Nebraska
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:55 am Post subject:
Hi Steve,
I agree. Nothing beats good content and letting people know you have it by writing and submitting articles. I get a kick out of all the people spending time trying to take exsisting content and re-work it to make it their own. They would be just as well served to spend a few minutes and write their own stuff. Anyone can write and article and submit it to the top 5-10 directories in less than 1 hour.
Do that a few times a day for a year and see how much traffic you have. _________________ Jeff Schuman
Article Writer order website and blog articles, testimonials, sharp pricing.
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I agree. Nothing beats good content and letting people know you have it by writing and submitting articles ... Anyone can write and article and submit it to the top 5-10 directories in less than 1 hour ... Do that a few times a day for a year and see how much traffic you have.
I'm not so sure about this. I don't think most people really have so much to say on their topic (worth saying) that they could write a good article in an hour, or once a day.
Every day I get a fresh batch of 2-15 articles in my niche from EzineArticles. When I find something that isn't boring and sounds like the author knows something, I publish it, but this is rare. The vast majority sound like people who don't really know a lot about their topic trying to play a numbers game with articles. And I don't think that works very well as a marketing strategy anymore.
I read a few people who blog and genuinely seem to have something interesting to say almost every day. These people are few and far between and they usually have a book, or a lot of them, under their belt.
Think about the quality difference between the average short article in a glossy magazine and one you'll find on the web, much less in an article bank. A glossy article represents hours of research, thought, interviews, drafts and editing, all performed by pros who came to their career because they actually wanted to WRITE more than anything, or wanted to EDIT or publish more than anything. _________________ - blake
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