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tttheq



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Would Google Adsense consider this illegal? Reply with quote

Hi all. My appoach to making money with adsense involves finding a really good niche, or better to put it, niche of a niche. In fact, my niched are so tight that there's hardly any competion for it.

But my problem is this. Because the niches/keywords are so specific, I can't really add more then one page, or one post on a blog. If I did, that would be going from a very specific topic to a much broader one. That would also probably hurt mt SE rankings for the niche keywords, and that's my main goal, to rank good with this niche of the niche sites.

I know adsense says it doesn't approve of creating sites with the purpose of joining adsense, but that's not what I'm doing. I'm optimizing my niche keywords for the SE google (and others).

My main problem are with creating the one page/one post sites. I have no idea how adsence, google, or even blooger might take this?

All of them have a tight squezze on the trigger lol.

Still, after reviewing my competion, I see many use sneaky tactics outlwed by google:

simiral text with background+keywords stuffing in there
or just link sites, full of links with the keyword mentioned probably once
on many of them I couldn't even find the keyword lol

The best part is many of them had google adsense on them (who doesn't these days lol).

While the majority are crap sites, there are some good ones. Still when u see that kind of junk on top, one has to question is google doing his job????

Will I get banned for creating this one page/one post sites? (haven't decided if I will go with a sites or blogs yet). These are not doorway pages but just a page about a very specific topic with adsence on it.

Thanks for all the help you've given me so far!
Expecting your feedback on this one too. Very Happy
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AllanGardyne
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it impossible to imagine a profitable niche so small that you're able to write only one article on it.

Here are 38 ways to write articles about splerks:

My favorite splerk
Why I love my splerks
How splerks have improved my life
A trustworthy, reliable splerk
The best place to buy a splerk
Splerks I recommend
Best splerk stores
Why you need a splerk
The top 10 splerks
Where to find a good splerk
The special ingredients in a well made splerk
How to splerk quietly/successfully/quickly
Splerking for fun and profit
10 things you need to know about splerks
The amazing history of splerks
How splerks are made
How splerks were invented
The advantages and disadvantages of splerks
Why purple splerks are better than orange splerks
Splerk fads and fashions
Have you tried splerks yet?
7 innovative ways to use splerks
10 splerk jokes
Do you know who invented the splerk?
There's no need to be ashamed of splerking
One of my best friends is a splerk
Splerk quotations
My favorite splerk poem
The ***/fastest/quietest/longest splerk
The world's most expensive splerk
Are you old enough for splerks?
What IS a splerk?
The Splerk Special Report
The Splerk White Paper
Splerks in movies
Does your girlfriend know about splerks?
Have you splerked yet?
Don't be so splerking ridiculous!

Because you know what your splerk is, you have a big advantage. You should be able to produce a lot more ideas.

Hope that helps.

P.S. You may not be banned for having a one-page site, but unless it's absolutely brilliantly written and makes people talk about, you'd probably have alot of trouble getting traffic to it from search engines. If you're paying for traffic, then a one-page site might work to your advantage.
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Nietzsche



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: priceless! Reply with quote

Laughing This splerk-article post is priceless!
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tttheq



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AllanGardyne wrote:
I find it impossible to imagine a profitable niche so small that you're able to write only one article on it.

Here are 38 ways to write articles about splerks:


Hey. Alan. I must say it's great getting advice from the best. I really appreciate your comments very much, how do you make up the time to do this? Very Happy
Still thanks, I know I'll learn a lot from this great forum.

BTW, what are splerks? lol I did a google on them - no match?

About your post - I'm not going for "splerks" as in your example, rather I'm going for some of the "My favorite splerk poem" or "10 splerk jokes".

You take a general word and divide it into specific words-
I do the opposite, pick a specific word and tyr to build a site around it.
So if I tried to expand I would have to go back to the general word. I tried explaing this in my post, I didn't dp a good job:oops:

My point is - I think in the case of moving to the general word, I would be competing with the big boys for general words, where I wouldn't stand a chance.

The second part of your answer got me thinking though.
One always asumes that if you see say X number of searches per day and you rank hi, that you will always have that traffic, each and every day.

The thought of recuring visits didn't cross my mind. Your point was that unless I make a decent site, I might get a short burst of traffic, but people will ignore the site after that, right?

I use adsence ads, and I don't and won't use adwords.
The whole plan with this niche of the niche is to get free SE traffic.

Well I guess the best would be just to go for it.

What do you mean by - you may not be banned?

Is there a strong chance for that?

I'm seeing a lot of one page sites that do well on google...Are they the ones that were lucky not to get banned by google. Maybe they're autogenerated ( they seem like the are) and after every google banning they make a new site, and another...who knows?

I really have no idea how google looks at this???
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttheq wrote:
...I really appreciate your comments very much, how do you make up the time to do this? Very Happy

You're welcome. I find this more challenging than watching TV.

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BTW, what are splerks? lol I did a google on them - no match?

I don't know - they're not in my dictionary, either. Smile

From your first post:

Quote:
But my problem is this. Because the niches/keywords are so specific, I can't really add more then one page, or one post on a blog. If I did, that would be going from a very specific topic to a much broader one. That would also probably hurt mt SE rankings for the niche keywords, and that's my main goal, to rank good with this niche of the niche sites.

Remember that the search engines LIKE websites to use word stemming, for example splerk, splerking, splerked. It's a good thing to include them on your page. Doing so makes it more obvious to the search engine what your page is all about.

Also, search engines LIKE synonyms. You don't want to write a page only about a "splerk". You also want to include phrases which are commonly used in the splerk industry. These are GOOD things to do if you want to be found if search engines.

So if you main keyword was "fruit" it would be perfectly natural - and a good thing to do - to include the following words: tree, grape and pear.

If you do a search in Google for "fruit" with a tilde at the front, like this...

~fruit

...you'll see that Google puts all those tree, grape and pear in bold. That's a little hint for you that Google sees those words as being related somehow. They appear naturally in conversation and in writing in this industry, so it's natural for them to appear on a web page about fruit.

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Your point was that unless I make a decent site, I might get a short burst of traffic, but people will ignore the site after that, right?

Yes. If you build a high quality, interesting site, you have a much higher chance that people will link to your site - and good, high quality links from related sites are absolutely essential.

Also, if you build a high quality site you're building a business, you're not just grabbing some revenue which might quickly disappear.

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The whole plan with this niche of the niche is to get free SE traffic.

Then you definitely need to think carefully about giving people lots of very good reasons to link to your site.

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What do you mean by - you may not be banned?

Is there a strong chance for that?

I don't think Google search engine would ban your site. It's possible that Google's AdSense would regard a one-page site as not suitable to carry AdSense ads. Just because you see AdSense on low quality sites, that doesn't mean AdSense approves of those sites. I once saw three AdSense ads on page which had nothing else on it but three links! It's easy to get an AdSense account for one website and then use it on another.

AdSense has relaxed its rules a lot. You could write to AdSense and ask.

I'm seeing a lot of one page sites that do well on google...Are they the ones that were lucky not to get banned by google. Maybe they're autogenerated ( they seem like the are) and after every google banning they make a new site, and another...who knows?[/quote]
I've be interested in seeing some of them. As a general rule, it's fairly difficult to rank well with a one-page site unless you're aiming for very non-competitive phrases.

I have a top 10 spot with a one-page site but hardly anyone ever searches for the site's main phrase. Smile

Anyway, Google search engine wouldn't ban your site. If anything, it just wouldn't rank it well.

The exception would be a one-page site which was so dramatically controversial - or useful - that people talked about it and linked it.

With the one-page sites you find which are ranking well, it would be very useful to do a search like this at Yahoo! to see where their links are coming from...

link:http://www.example.com

If you find out something useful, I hope you'll share it here.
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tttheq



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AllanGardyne wrote:
If you find out something useful, I hope you'll share it here.


Sure. And thanks for this long post, it answers a lot of my questions Very Happy
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Bobby



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttheq wrote:
BTW, what are splerks? lol I did a google on them - no match?


A splerk is a common component used in the manufacturing of widgets.

A splerk is would tightly around a gizmo which is attached to a whatchumaycallit just under the doomaflotche'. Of course the better quality widgets use only premium splerks.


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crying freeman



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allan,

You are really one piece of work. Your post just gave rise to the biggest inspiration I'v had this last month.

Well I'll be splerked!

I toast to your expertise, experience and health
Regards,

C.F.
May the "splerk" be with you
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Its curious that you are targeting such a tight niche, but if there is not much attention to your target niche, it just wont matter how good your product is. People usually generalize when they make search on google.
Unless you find a market where there is a good demand and low supply, you are wasting your time. I am new to IM but I have had some experience with a niche market and luckily I can mange to write about 100 pages and rank pretty high on google within my target niche. Even then business is slow.

Regards
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, thanks always for the splerky explanation. My bit for popularizing 'splerk' in google. next week, google will rank these pages in top 10 for splerk.. Laughing
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