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RonD



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Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:08 am
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Hello,

I just wanted to ask a simply question in regards to "affiliate marketing"

Do you believe that affiliate marketing is dying?

The reason why I am asking this I step into this about two years and have notice several things. The niche I happen to choose quite a few of my affiliates from CJ have been deactivated. Along with that I have notice that my Adsense revenue in this particular niche is slowly dropping I know its against Google?s TOS to talk specifics so let just say its not even close to what it was 2 years ago.

Also I know some of you are Martell?s students, and I don?t if its just coincidence but my site at one time had achieved a page rank 5 it appears for some reason that this site has been delisted.

Here is a thread http://associateprograms.com/discus/ftopic15748.html if you have not read it about how Colin McDougall comes flat out and says that Martell?s model that did work for him 5 years ago earning him 5 figures a month now struggles to earn 4 figures a month. It seems to me that from I?ve read and hear the Martell model no longer gets it done.

So is there a ?model? that can be followed for us affiliates??
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:42 am
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Build information rich sites. You really can't go wrong with that. Continue building sites. Have a "virtual real estate" of sites, in all topics and ranges. That business model of affiliate marketing isn't going away. Its such a great resource for the merchant and doesn't cost a lot to perform.

I'm not sure if you saw the reese video where he made $500,000 last year...in which he started last year at $0.

That's not too bad. Even though that's adsense revenue, it goes to show that making money online is still very much achievable.

Also, there was a recent thread over at Sitepoint where a few members came out and showed how much they were pulling in per month. Mid to high 5 figures a month.

I'm not worried. Smile
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:24 am
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Hi Ron,

About the dying breed, it's a natural occurance. Businesses will go in and out of the affiliate networks. It's not just about affiliate marketing, it's about business....period. Most business' have failed historically. I'm not saying that all of these companies in the Aff. networks are failing, but the ones that don't realize any potential or profit will most likely leave....wouldn't you?

About your niche site, niches are like businesses. There's competition, and if you're not able to compete, you'll be going downhill. Eventually, niches become filled. It's just a matter of time. What matters is who will survive and reap the rewards that we all have the opportunity to achieve. Your reduction of adsense clicks could be because of all of this and flagged SEO.

RonD wrote:

So is there a ?model? that can be followed for us affiliates??


This is just one of my new rules... try to be more natural. With the old techniques, SEO had a formula. If you have your own algorithm in making websites to achieve high rankings, Google will have a counter algorithm.

By having the same primary keyword in the title, meta tags, header, and in the first and/or second paragraph.... you're already setting yourself up for failure. It's too easy for SE's to detect this pattern.

You could write all of the beautiful content in the world, but with this strategy, you're more likely to get delisted.

So just write relevant content that people are seeking. Break up your keywords through out the body. Find problems that revolve around your primary keywords and write about them.

Besides all of this, the oldest SEO technique that I don't see ever dying is relative-inbound links. Find ways to steadily get tons of these --in a manner that the SE's don't see as being manufactured -- and you don't have to worry about a formula to write up your content.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:41 am
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RonD wrote:
Do you believe that affiliate marketing is dying?

No. It's just changing, developing, growing up.

If you build sites that contain genuine high quality, useful content and get high quality links to them from high quality sites, you'll still be making good money a long time from now.

If you build an email list and keep offering them high quality content, you'll continue to make money.

As already mentioned, that free Reese Report gives a good indication of what can be achieved with AdSense sites, but it also gives very thought-provoking ideas on how to get other people to create your content for you.

But as well as that, consider how John is cleverly collecting hundreds of thousands of email addresses by using his free giveaway as the teaser - and he's using affiliates to help him do so. That's very smart affiliate marketing.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:45 am
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Sounds like it's time to change your strategy - when things change you have to change with them. I don't know why your site has been delisted, but if your CJ affiliates from your niche has gone - maybe your niche isn't popular anymore or has changed. Sorry - i can't comment more than that, as i don't even know what your niche is.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:59 am
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AllanGardyne wrote:

No. It's just changing, developing, growing up.


To clarify a prior post, I totally agree with Allan. This is just the beginning of affiliate marketing. It's going to take a long time for a lot of niches to become filled. As mentioned before, most businesses fail. What that means for affiliate marketing is that leaves less competition for you. People get into net marketing and don't see life changing results and leave. That's just human nature. Just make sure you're the one that's growing and succeeding with the trends.

richerbrat wrote:
Sounds like it's time to change your strategy - when things change you have to change with them.


I agree with richerbrat too about changing your strategy.

I also agree with the idea of at least building a stool. I'd rather create a business with a 3 leg stool instead of just 1 leg. The more legs you have, the more stable your business will be.

About being delisted, I've had some sites mostly delisted. For example, I built a site 5 months ago. After 1 month, almost the whole site was indexed. Close to the beginning of February, only my home page was listed. That's still the case.

In that site, I have multiple hypens in the domain name, and used a "formulated" SEO strategy.

Not sure what happened, but after that experience, I've changed my ways. It's a short amount of time to gauge my old SEO. As mentioned previously, creating sites for the visitor in mind will probably not get you delisted and will allow more sites to link to it.


richerbrat wrote:
I don't know why your site has been delisted, but if your CJ affiliates from your niche has gone - maybe your niche isn't popular anymore or has changed. Sorry - i can't comment more than that, as i don't even know what your niche is.


Looking at a CJ merchants performance or non-performance shouldn't always be used to gauge a niche. A niche without many merchants can mean that it hasn't been tapped. Maybe the merchant didn't tap it well or had a website with lousy conversions.

Do some keyword analysis to figure out if your niche can be profitable. If there's no merchant offering products, maybe it's time to create your own....but that wouldn't be affiliate marketing. Confused
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