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crying freeman
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:52 pm
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Good day to you all!
Are you being bombarded too with emails about Butterfly Marketing?
Looks like every guru, deputy guru and guru in the making jumped on this, going banana's to make you buy B.M. through them, throwing outragious bonuses at you, promising Walhalla etc. etc.
Makes me wonder how this all is going to affect the product that Michael Filshem is releasing today.
The top-dog guru's, the ones who can afford a dollar or more per click, are going to hijack this product leaving us puppies far behind them. That is an aspect about affiliate marketing I do not like much.
However, even after reading the so called "leaked chapter" I still am in the dark about what excactly B.M. is
Does anyone here knows? What is it going to cost? What is it all about? I hope it is not some hyped-up marketing scheme where one million affiliates are jumping on.
Boy, am I glad that at least my viral supertip activities bring in some money, I mean I am already happy if 2 to 5 sales a day come in via this one, but then again I am a modest guy and i have learned to start small and walk before I run.
I will stick with my Supertip income and my Adwords campaigns on recipies for the time being, they bring in some cash for me.
No doubt there will be a raging blizzard after it's release (B.M.) tonight.
To all of you, may fortune smile at you and bring success with your affiliate marketing.
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:21 pm
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I found this on a site that is already building hype for the product:
| Quote: | There is TONS of buzz around the ?net about Mike Filsaime?s Butterfly Marketing launch. However, the biggest question seems to be ?What is Butterfly Marketing??
Well, I?m here to answer that question for you. I was lucky enough to receive an advance copy, and I read the ebook cover to cover and listened to the recorded calls multiple times. The information I picked up inside will help me make a TON of money in the coming months! Actually, I added many of the features he talks about to my functionality document for my project Codname: Torrent.
So, to answer ?What is Butterfly Marketing?? - Butterfly Marketing is a theory. It?s the belief that one small change somewhere in the world (even as small as a butterfly flapping it?s wings) can change the course of the future. There was a movie called ?The Butterfly Effect? a few years ago about this same theory.
Mike applies that theory and discusses how to make a small change on your website and turn your site into a viral marketing machine. Mike is a master viral marketer, and his sites keep growing and growing because of their viral nature. He actually takes you through a case study of each of his sites in this package, and lets you know what kind of a conversion rate he?s getting on them.
He also talks about pre-launch, launch, and post-launch marketing that you need to do to make your site keep bringing in the money. |
Seems the name has changed...the information will be rearranged...but it will be more of Mike Filsaime?s techniques. I'm not saying his techniques are not worth it, but do we need to pay $997 to read them again?
Are you newbies beginning to see how these gurus get rich?...LOL...Invent your own product...hype it up like it's the best thing since sliced bread....get your other guru buddies to write ****** testimonials....convince people this will change their lives forever like it's the ten commandments....jack up the price so it seems like it must be good if they are charging that much.....get a bunch of hungry affiliates who want to turn a fast buck off the backs of other struggling marketers....then, sit back and collect money for a few months while you come up with your next big product that will "change the marketing world". It's an old story.
Jim
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crying freeman
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:41 pm
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Jim,
"Butterfly Marketing is what, ...an EBOOK!"
[Off-topic section deleted. Allan Gardyne, Admin.]
PPS I did saw the movie "The Butterfly Effect", excellent story and very well edited.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:39 am
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Hey,
I too have been wondering wth butterfly marketing is. When I was skimming through his blog I saw someone say "myviralads.com" and so I went there and had no idea wth it was and since I saw no price anywhere, I signed up.
Then I discovered its not free like they make it seem, you have to buy "upgrades". Has anyone used myviralads.com and have any pros/cons to divulge to the masses? I did a forum search on myviralads.com and Mike Filsaime or whatever his name is and came up with dismal results, I guess no one talks about these terms on here.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:33 pm
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Over 100 emails I received in the past 4 days all blabbering about Butterfly Marketing. Disgusting. This product will be dead before it is launched. We should all boycot it, all the big guru-names are there in those emails. Why don't we just ignore this hype for one time and teach those guru's a lesson.
May luck and prosperity go with all those hardworking affiliates.
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Jim Guinn
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:59 pm
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From what I gather from the spam emails I am getting is it is more than just an ebook.....maybe a new car comes with it? 
People will no more boycott this than they will the ads on TV that promise you the moon if you buy this or that. Nowadays, it seems it's all in the "packaging". People don't believe honesty anymore; they think everyone is out to dupe them; but, they sure go for the hype.
Please...like a butterfly's wings...everyone start flapping now.
Jim
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:06 pm
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Cody,
You are one of the People Who have been battering me and probable 1000's of others, with emails about this B.M hype. Did you know that I received more then FIFTY emails today about B.M.
I have this to say; PROOF IT, PROOF IT, PROOF IT.
Respectfully,
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:36 pm
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I have no doubt Mike's stuff is the real deal. He's built a successful business from SCRATCH over the past 3 years. How many of you can say you made over $70,000 a month last year? It took him only 3 years and he has a subscriber list of over 300,000. Not bad.
Most guru's will tell you that the "money" is in the list. Mike, obviously with over 300,000 subscribers, knows a thing or 2 about building a list.
Personally, I'm not into the hype that these types of events bring. If it's a good product, then I'll purchase. After the launch, I'm sure they'll be critiques flying all over the 'net. If you are skeptical, then just wait to read a couple critiques from people you trust.
The funniest thing about this thread is that you're fueling the fire here. Mike can't pay for this type of thread. You're getting more people interested in the Butterfly Marketing course just by making a post like this.  Good work. hehe
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:14 pm
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I actually signed up to listen in to see if there was anything interesting. Then I realized it sounded pretty focused on email and building your list so never bothered. Been there...done that...got the Tshirt......How many times is he going to hawk this angle? Keep flapping those butterfly wings, Mike....and all the Mike wannabes.
| Quote: | | You're getting more people interested in the Butterfly Marketing course just by making a post like this. |
Right! And, then Johnny can go without braces for his teeth so maw and paw can pay for this "recycled, repackaged, re-explained, reiterated, regurgitated" fodder. If he really wants to help the average marketer.....make it affordable to the average marketer.
Jim
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:36 am
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| Voasi wrote: | | The funniest thing about this thread is that you're fueling the fire here. Mike can't pay for this type of thread. |
Exactly. That's one of the things which many of the really big name marketers are absolutely brilliant at doing - generating curiosity and getting people talking. The result - heaps of absolutely free publicity.
Just a couple of points re two of the other posts...
If you signed up for the newsletters you're receiving, it's unfair to call them "spam". More than likely they are double-optin newsletters.
You're also free to quietly ignore stuff which doesn't impress you, and free to unsubscribe from any newsletters you don't like.
You can stay subscribed and learn valuable lessons about how marketers generate buzz for high-ticket items, or you can decide that you're uncomfortable with such tactics and want to have nothing to do with them. It's your choice.
Me? I keep an eye on this stuff. Who knows? I might even decide to try these tactics myself one day. On the other hand, maybe I won't.
By the way, some people use the phrase "viral marketing" when they're actually talking about multi-level marketing. They know that "viral marketing" is more acceptable than MLM.
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crying freeman
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Ok Allan your right.
I did opt in for all the newsletters and I value their content most of the time. I just got a little overheated by all the emails on the same subject. I do appreciate the good quality of this forum and try to learn from experienced marketeers like yourself.
Listbuilding is the biggest challenge for me and is on my to-do list for this coming months. I still have to learn how to do that.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:13 am
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| crying freeman wrote: | Listbuilding is the biggest challenge for me and is on my to-do list for this coming months. I still have to learn how to do that.
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One of the ways I learned was by figuring out what I don't like in many of the newsletters I get and making sure I didn't do the same things. The flurry of Butterfly Marketing emails is reminding me of that.
You must admit 500 sales at $997 each in only a few hours is impressive.
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| Quote: | | You must admit 500 sales at $997 each in only a few hours is impressive. |
considering the hype... I don't think it's that impressive.... still 500 is good amount...
I first knew about mike's sites when he luanched Freejoekumar.com.. I thought the idea was really good... I am in most of his lists... I like his methods...
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Personally, I reckon Mike has shot himself in the foot with the excessive hype he's incited over BM.
The "grand unveiling call" of the sales letter was a joke - no-one could access it. There was some good info on the call, given, but only if you know how to use it.
Even the day itself wasn't a smooth take-off, SO much had been said about the date, and more the exact TIME, of the launch that the servers ran away screaming.
Allan mentioned it and I believe it's mentioned as part of the course, the usefulness of building curiosity and interest before a product launch. However, I reckon BM has exploded far beyond what Filsaime was expecting.
It may be a useful package to the right person, but with this level of anticipation and a $997 price tag, he'd have to deliver a hell of a lot to live upto expectations. At least in my eyes.
If he was resolute in doing an initial 1500 roll-out, the same could have been achieved through a more subtle campaign over a slightly longer time period. That way, he wouldn't have ended up alienating a fair chunk of subscribers that were never going to buy the course (because it just didn't suit or they couldn't afford it) but still got bombarded with promos and offers. Not to mention the server problems.
Perhaps his eyes were to big for his servers?
Meh, end of the day, I own;t be buying it but good luck to him. He's put alot of effort into the thing. $500000 in 5 hours is impressive to say the least...
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