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SteveW
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:17 pm
Post subject: Help... How would you veterans handle this?
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I am sure there is not a definite right or wrong way to deal with this, however just getting started in my Internet business I would like to hear as many other opinions as I can.
I am using SBI to develop a site with the purpose of educating people on the fact that they can save a lot of money when they buy/build a PC if they consider how they will be using the computer first. For example, no matter what the guy at Big Box Computer Store tries to tell you, you don't have to get a computer with the latest AMD 64 bit CPU and $300 sound card, if all you want to do is log on to AOL and check your email.
My brainstorming and keyword research show that both "cheap computers" and "discount computers" are very popular search terms as well as most all associated keywords have a "cheap" and a "discount" version.
In my mind people using either phrase are searching for the same thing.
Since my target-market uses both terms interchangeably, how can I create keyword focused content pages without having to write something like cheap/discount motherboards?
How about as far as choosing a domain name that would include my site concept, names with both cheap and discount are available.
I have tried to find another niche to target but I keep coming back to the only one that excites me.
Please don't refer me to Rupert's site as I have purposefully stayed away because I don't want to be accused of copying a successfull site. I'm hoping there is still room in this niche to compete.
Please everyone, newbie and veteran alike, weigh in and give me your thoughts.
*** Super Bonus #1***
If you give me your thoughts by midnight tonight, I will buy you a cup of coffee if we are ever in the same coffee shop at the same time.
Valued at $3.94 
I think I've read too many sales pages.
Thanks everyone,
Steve
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:32 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:40 am
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| SteveW wrote: | .
Since my target-market uses both terms interchangeably, how can I create keyword focused content pages without having to write something like cheap/discount motherboards?
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Hi Steve.
This situation is actually a blessing. To cover both possibilities you can write two pages on motherboards discussing two different aspects of the topic. On one use the keyphrase cheap motherboards and on the other discount motherboards. For example, on the first page you can discuss how to choose a motherboard, and on the other review some specific motherboards you think are good.
You owe me a cup of coffee. 
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:41 am
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| SteveW wrote: | .
Since my target-market uses both terms interchangeably, how can I create keyword focused content pages without having to write something like cheap/discount motherboards?
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Hi Steve.
This situation is actually a blessing. To cover both possibilities you can write two pages on motherboards discussing two different aspects of the topic. On one use the keyphrase cheap motherboards and on the other discount motherboards. For example, on the first page you can discuss how to choose a motherboard, and on the other review some specific motherboards you think are good.
You owe me a cup of coffee.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:18 am
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Steve,
Have you read the SBI! guide? It's a free download and covers niche research, domain and keyword selection in detail.
Cheers,
Charlie.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:22 pm
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Hi Steve,
| Quote: | | I am using SBI to develop a site with the purpose of educating people on the fact that they can save a lot of money when they buy/build a PC if they consider how they will be using the computer first. For example, no matter what the guy at Big Box Computer Store tries to tell you, you don't have to get a computer with the latest AMD 64 bit CPU and $300 sound card, if all you want to do is log on to AOL and check your email. |
Yes, you are quite right! Actually, there are some profit keywords available in this area. But the problem is that you have to have a unique site concept to be different from hundreds of web sites discussing the same subject.
Are you ready to be different? Do you have something different to say to your visitors what they could not find on other similar web sites?
| Quote: | | Please don't refer me to Rupert's site as I have purposefully stayed away because I don't want to be accused of copying a successfull site. I'm hoping there is still room in this niche to compete. |
Rupert has a succesful web site you're going to compete with. It is very difficult to be in success if you don't know your competitors. There is always a risk to write the same things as others in this area of knowledge because of widly available both online and offline information about computers and how to buy them. So, if you stay away from Rupert's site or others you can willy-nilly establish just a mirror web site, probably with high traffic but with low or none commission earned.
I agree with Charlie, you have to read the SBI! guide very carefully, so after that you can ask yourself if you are ready to create such a unique content. If so, go ahead and good luck!
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SteveW
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:12 am
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Thanks everyone for your input.
| Serge wrote: | But the problem is that you have to have a unique site concept to be different from hundreds of web sites discussing the same subject.
Are you ready to be different? Do you have something different to say to your visitors what they could not find on other similar web sites?
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You have a definite point, and I don't have anything really different to say that cannot be found on hundreds of other sites.
I have poured/agonized over the Action Guide for some time, but before I register a domain name, me thinks it is time to make another trip back to the drawing board for a new site concept or a unique twist on discount/cheap computers.
Thanks Serge for keeping me from rushing.
Thanks again everyone.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:29 am
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Ah, steve, just a thought:
To be different: If you're planning this site, you know a lot about the subject of cheap computers. In the beginning, you said 'with the purpose of educating..'. There's your difference. Write TEXT about the subject, and scatter it about, displaying your competence. That will make you different from all the hardware pushers. Just a thought..... |
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Charlie
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:54 pm
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| SteveW wrote: | I have poured/agonized over the Action Guide for some time, but before I register a domain name, me thinks it is time to make another trip back to the drawing board for a new site concept or a unique twist on discount/cheap computers.
Thanks Serge for keeping me from rushing. |
If you have "agonized over the Action Guide for some time", I don't think you can fairly be accused of rushing...
Speaking as someone who's been there, this looks like a case of "paralysis by analysis". If you've done the research and are interested in the subject, go for it.
Just my thoughts,
Charlie.
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HorseMan
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:31 pm
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| Quote: | | If you've done the research and are interested in the subject, go for it. |
That is right Charlie.
Just Do It... Steve (I didn't just read lot of sales letters, I also saw some ads)
One thought I had though... If you are going to write about something like this, how people can save by thinking about what they are going to do with the computer, who is your customer.
Probably somebody who knows nothing about computers...
Maybe doesn't really want to know anything about computers...
Might not even be looking for cheap computer, just practical one...
That is somebody like... .... ....me....
I would for example never search for cheap motherboard, I would rather look for "Internet Computer", because I use my computer for the internet.
Overture "Internet Computer" 156.000 searches.
Google shows no relative results for "internet computer" (they hardly ever show relative results in the top ten these days, except mine 
My point is there might be lot of different aproches to this subject that will also make your content unique.
Rubert might write about cheap computers, but you could be the only one to write about internet computer, or something close to that.
Hope this was helpful, I am dying for some coffee
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SteveW
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:17 am
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Thanks for all the input everyone.
| HorseMan wrote: | . . . who is your customer.
Probably somebody who knows nothing about computers...
Maybe doesn't really want to know anything about computers...
Might not even be looking for cheap computer, just practical one...
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I had been thinking about that and I realised that I was planning a site for me not the customer. Details excite me, I would want to know what all the specs meant and what was the trade-off for choosing on-board audio versus a separate audio card etc. Have I put you to sleep yet HorseMan? 
When I built my last PC, I spent loads of time researching specs before deciding which components to purchase. But most people, aka my target audience, are probably not that anal about the purchasing process.
Come to think of it, it might all be caused by a fear of making a mistake. 
I looks as though I have some serious soul searching to do, to determine if this is really something that I should persue.
Thanks all, it has been enlightening.
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HorseMan
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:17 pm
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Steve, there is one other thing I think stops most people from starting website, or any buisness.
They think they have to success the first time.
The fact is your first website is probably not going to be succesful. You are lucky if you make cost and few dimes. But you take the experience to next website you make, and that one could be success. Or the third one.
I have also seen this in the horse world. Most people make critical mistakes when they choose and train their first horse. They do usually not get a good horse untill the second or third try.
And there is nothing wrong with this...
The only falior is to sit home and do nothing... and thinking too long about what you are going to do. Not going after your dream.
Someone quoted Edison about something like this here on the board, I just don't remember what it was
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Charlie
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:50 pm
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| HorseMan wrote: | | The fact is your first website is probably not going to be succesful. You are lucky if you make cost and few dimes. But you take the experience to next website you make, and that one could be success. Or the third one. |
If you choose a niche that can be monetised, SBI! can take away much of the experimentation, so it needn't be quite that pessimistic, if you're goal is an affiliate content site.
| HorseMan wrote: | | The only failure is to sit home and do nothing... and thinking too long about what you are going to do. Not going after your dream. |
Couldn't agree more.
Cheers,
Charlie.
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| Quote: | | Someone quoted Edison about something like this here on the board, I just don't remember what it was. |
Thomas Edison, eh... 
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:22 pm
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| Quote: | | Thomas Edison, eh... |
Good one, that is who it was 
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