Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject: *Link Software ARELIS*
Is anyone using a linking software ARELIS? This software seems to eliminate your time-consuming manual link work and also it seems to be able to boost your site's link popularity.
http://www.axandra.com/arelis/index.htm
I want to put my money where it's worth for,so if anyone is using this soft,please tell us your experiences.
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:38 am Post subject: Get Arelis
Hi,
I read about Arelis six months ago but I kept on putting it off and trying to find other programs that were "better". I finally came to the conclusion that there really isn't anything better than Arelis - period.
The closest runner up I considered was Zeus, which is a good program but for me was a bit too complex. I was busy and I wanted something quick and easy. Arelis fit both requirements.
It's super easy to use and it spits out professional results extremely quickly. In fact, I ended up angry with myself for NOT getting it sooner.
The other thing I like about Arelis is the support. Johannes (one of the developers) is super efficient, friendly and most times responds within a few hours of getting your email. He lives in Germany so the time factor may make that shorter or long depending upon when you try to contact him. But I will tell you that "he" answers the email and, having written the program, you won't get the run-around or vague answers.
I'm a happy camper with my copy of Arelis. So, don't do like I did, and wait around. Just get it. It comes with a money-back trial guarantee so you really can't lose. But I'll tell you, if you're anything like me, once you use the program even Johannes won't be able to pry it out of your hands!
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I think Arelis is something can be regarded as spamming. First, it solicits email address from webpages, and allow users to send bulk emails. Will it get caught by search engines? and complained by webmasters?
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:12 am Post subject:
Nick wrote:
I think Arelis is something can be regarded as spamming. First, it solicits email address from webpages, and allow users to send bulk emails. Will it get caught by search engines? and complained by webmasters?
In no way does Arelis promote spamming. If you choose to send spam using emails that Arelis collects, then that's your business, and not the fault of Arelis. And Arelis directory can't be really distinguished from a directory constructed manually, and therefore it cannot be "caught" by seach engines.
Arelis is a good program, and I use it myself. My biggest complaint is not being able to create arbitrary configurations of sub-topics, but I still haven't seen a comprable program that will let you do that.
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I have heard that search engines don't like sites that use Arelis and Zeus. It may raise your ranking for a while but in the end they don't like you linking to just any old site that will do it. I don't use either of them so I don't really know a whole lot about them but I have heard to stay away from them.
Anyway, sending bulk emails and seeking for links are not a good practice. That's why you hear the bad side about Arelis and Zeus. _________________ Download Reciprocal Link Exchange Software
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:
linkautomate wrote:
Anyway, sending bulk emails and seeking for links are not a good practice. That's why you hear the bad side about Arelis and Zeus.
Arelis and Zeus do not let you send bulk email!
If these are considered spam programs, so do Eudora and Outlook.
And besides, the "Automate Link Exchange" program you're pushing,
lets users send email to other webmasters just as Arelis and Zeus.
This post is a blatand ad! Sorry to have to play forum cop again.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject:
Trent Brownrigg wrote:
I have heard that search engines don't like sites that use Arelis and Zeus. It may raise your ranking for a while but in the end they don't like you linking to just any old site that will do it. I don't use either of them so I don't really know a whole lot about them but I have heard to stay away from them.
I could be wrong though.
Nothing to do with Arelis and Zeus, you'd get the same results if you linked to "just any old site" by hand coding HTML.
Software like Arelis and Zeus make building link pages easier. The choice as to which site to link is still yours.
Our software does not go out and collect email address. We focus on management while Arelis and Zeus are more about seeking link exchange.
You may be their affiliates and so you think what I said is ad only.
Anyway, welcome your idea, and let the users to find out their difference and determine whether it is SPAM or not. _________________ Download Reciprocal Link Exchange Software
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:37 am Post subject:
linkautomate wrote:
Yaron,
I'm sorry. It is not an Ad.
Our software does not go out and collect email address. We focus on management while Arelis and Zeus are more about seeking link exchange.
You may be their affiliates and so you think what I said is ad only.
Anyway, welcome your idea, and let the users to find out their difference and determine whether it is SPAM or not.
My appologies if you did not mean it as a blatant ad. It's just that your accusations toward Arelis and Zeus do not hold up to my experience with these programs.
I'm not an affiliate of Arelis or Zeus. So I have no financial stake at this. I just don't understand why you imply Arelis and Zeus are guilty of spam and Automate Link Exchange is not. Zeus and Arelis do look at websites and try to figure out what the email address is. But this is just a time saving feature. You can almost as easily look up the email yourself. And neither one of these programs allows you to send bulk email. If you want to send email with Zeus or Arelis, you have to do it one site at a time. It's implemented this way specifically so that you won't send spam email.
Here are a few questions:
1. Doesn't Automate Link Exchange allow you to send link requests at all?
2. Why is sending individual link request emails, as with Zeus and Arelis, spamming?
3. If Automate Link Exchange is not focused on seeking link exchanges, why is it good for people here at "Link Partners Platform", and why is it called Automate Link Exchange?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:13 am Post subject:
linkautomate wrote:
Our software does not go out and collect email address. We focus on management while Arelis and Zeus are more about seeking link exchange.
Oh I get it now. So I know the answer to my 3rd question.
You mean Arelis and Zeus go out to the Web and seek out sites and emails, and Automate Link Exchange does not. But I still maintain that Arelis and Zeus are not at all about spam. Neither one has a button that says "Email All". Collecting the email is a mere convenience to the user. If you then choose to take all those email addresses and send spam, that's your business, and not Arelis and Zeus's fault, as I said before somewhere.
Even if you could send bulk email with Arelis or Zeus, so what?
You can also send bulk email to some extent with Eudora and Outlook.
Does that mean these email clients are programs for spam?
It's how you use these programs that makes the difference.
Automate Link Exchange might have many advantages, but the lack of being able to seek out sites and emails for link exchanges is not one of them.
You are over-reacted. With such a reaction, everyone believes you are associated with Zeus and Arelis or a product owner of similar product.
I never say mean other products are inferior to comparing my process.
I responded to another user's post and he said he heard that Arelis and Zeus are no good and will be caught by search engines. I expressed my idea why someone said this. If you don't think Zeus and Arelis will hurt their positions, simply post why they won't hurt with reasons. Let other members here judge themselves. In fact, there is no need to attack other people's idea. Your action just curbs other people to express ideas when it is different to you, Yaron.
I don' t know why you are so negative and allege that my product is lack of features, I am advertising, etc....
This forum allows people to express their view, their thought but not a forum for start flaming. Hope you can respect different ideas.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject:
linkautomate wrote:
Please Calm down.
You are over-reacted. With such a reaction, everyone believes you are associated with Zeus and Arelis or a product owner of similar product.
I'm not over reacting, merely stating facts. I'm not associate with either one, but even if I were, I would have a perfectly legitimate right to defend false accusations of spam. I have used both products, they are not perfect, but they do not promote spam.
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I responded to another user's post and he said he heard that Arelis and Zeus are no good and will be caught by search engines. I expressed my idea why someone said this.
Let's see, you said:
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Anyway, sending bulk emails and seeking for links are not a good practice. That's why you hear the bad side about Arelis and Zeus.
But neither Zeus nor Arelis allow you to send bulk email. That's why it looks like you are trying to trash those other products while promoting your own. That might not have been your intention, but it looked that way to me. Also, why is seeking for link partners not a good practice?
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If you don't think Zeus and Arelis will hurt their positions, simply post why they won't hurt with reasons.
That's exactly what I did. I said in a previous post:
"In no way does Arelis promote spamming. If you choose to send spam using emails that Arelis collects, then that's your business, and not the fault of Arelis. And Arelis directory can't be really distinguished from a directory constructed manually, and therefore it cannot be "caught" by seach engines."
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In fact, there is no need to attack other people's idea. Your action just curbs other people to express ideas when it is different to you, Yaron.
What do you mean? If I see a statement which I think to be false, why can't I attack it? This is what debate is all about. I'm not attacking you! I'm attacking what you said, which is perfectly reasonable. How does my action curbs other people from expressing ideas? I can't pervent them from posting in this forum.
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I don' t know why you are so negative and allege that my product is lack of features, I am advertising, etc....
I didn't allege your product lacks in features. I just said that a lack of a particular feature, i.e. not being able to get an email address off of a Web site, which you admitted Automate Link doesn't have, is not an advantage. Otherwise Automate Link looks like a pretty good product, and I would consider using it myself.
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This forum allows people to express their view, their thought but not a forum for start flaming. Hope you can respect different ideas.
There were no flames here. Again, I never attacked you personally, only reacted to what you wrote. And I do respect different ideas, just not all ideas. I don't respect the idea that the Earth is flat, among others.
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Whether go to a website and then capture their email addresses is a spam or not, let users make their own decision. As always, SPAM is debatable.
OK, let users make their own decision as to whether just collecting email addresses, but not allowing bulk email to be sent out is considered spam. I'll bet users of Automate Link Exchange also collect emails, but they have to do it manually.
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