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Post Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:50 am
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Hello, everyone...Has anyone here made any sales with CB Mall? I bought a package because it looked like something that I could do at this comparatively new stage of the game for me...

I'll admit, some of the testimonials on the sales page did sway me. Rolling Eyes

This seemed like a great thing to promote, but now I'm wondering if I got "taken"....?

I'm sure it will take some time for me to get rolling properly, but just wondered what anyone else's experiences have been with this?

Thanks for any replies!

All the best,
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:06 pm
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Hello Becky.

Becky wrote:
Has anyone here made any sales with CB Mall? I bought a package because it looked like something that I could do at this comparatively new stage of the game for me...

I haven't used CBMall, but I did take a good look a while ago. In the end, what frightened me off was the fact that it seemed too general. What would be your target customer? Someone who might like to buy something from ClickBank? Anyone could qualify - in the loosest sense of the word. I wasn't sure I could generate enough traffic to make it worth it.

Becky wrote:
I'll admit, some of the testimonials on the sales page did sway me. Rolling Eyes

Speaking hypothetically, I always did have trouble believing testimonials. I ask myself...

Did they get a free version?
Are they in turn promoted by the person they are promoting?
Are they an affiliate?

In other words, what's in it for them?

Just my opinion,
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:09 pm
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Hi, Charlie...thanks for the reply! You make an excellent point about it being too general!

I think it was my eagerness-to-get-started that caused me not to hold back as much as I normally would have! Sad

Guess I might have to chalk this up as a lesson learned, or maybe I'll even ask for a refund...

Thanks again for your comments!

All the best,
Becky F
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I think it was my eagerness-to-get-started that caused me not to hold back as much as I normally would have!


Hi Becky,

Don't worry about holding back before you make a decision or commit to buying something. I read somewhere that most people regret the things they didn't do, not the things did.

Usually, people hold back because they're afraid of something. Like Charlie said..he was "frightened off".

I can't really comment on CB Mall because I'm not familiar with the product and I haven't used it before. It's always good to try things first, but, if the product wasn't what you expected, then there's no harm in asking for a refund.

It's nice to see you hear in Alan's forum, and, I really like your positive attitude towards this affiliate, marketing, business, web site...thing!

All the best,
Jon Peibst Smile
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:16 pm
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Hi Becky,
I don't think you got taken so much as you believed you were getting something that wasn't going to require some work on your part. Sure, the testimonials and the sales pitch make it sound simple to earn money, but in reality, it isn't. Not for CB Mall, SBI, or any other program.

CB Mall can work if you are willing to make it work. The same holds true for most other affiliate programs as well.
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:10 am
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Thank you for the replies!
Hmm, I knew I would have to do work with this, and I WOULD like to make it work...
But you are right---building a website is more of a challenge than what one might think, lol!

I am very "fresh" at building, and though I had TONS of non-stop ideas BEFORE I actually set to working on a site, being confronted with all that blank space in front of me somehow causes everything I was going to do and write about to dry up! Sad

But I will most certainly persevere, as I very much want to make a go of this!

Thank you for the welcome too! Very Happy

All the best,
Becky F
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:52 am
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It sounds like you have some excellent ideas Becky!

Are you using Site Build It to help you with the design, promotion, building, research, etc, etc .. for your site?

If you're not, then you might find the following case study interesting. Here's the link:

http://www.associateprograms.com/search/affiliate-programs.shtml

All the best,
Jon Peibst Smile
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:21 am
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Hi, Jon...Unfortunately, at this time I do not have the funds to purchase a Site Build It package. I am doing all of my research, etc., manually, lol! I am studying, studying, studying---everything I can get my hands on. Smile

Since I have never created a website before, I am using a Homestead Gold package. (Not quite at the point yet where I want to hand-code all my pages.)
I am looking at this as my getting-my-feet-wet venture, and I know I'm making TONS of mistakes, but that's how I'll learn what to do differently on my next site! Wink

I, too, am one who has been fascinated with the Internet ever since I got online, and even though this marketing business most likely carries with it plenty of heartache, lol, I can't think of a more exciting way to try to earn some income!

Thanks for your comments!

All the best,
Becky
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:00 pm
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Hi all,

Regarding CBMall:

I have a CBMall, and have made nothing from it, but that
is _entirely_ because I have done nothing to promote it yet.

So, I'm not really in a position to comment on CBMall yet
but I do think you might want to at least stay on the CBMall
mailing list because Jeff Mulligan (i think that's his name)
knows what he's doing and it can be instructive to watch
how he communicates with his users.

For my taste anyway he seems to know how to acheive
an excellent blend of promotion and personal connection.
I feel like I know the guy, even though we've had no
contact. Being able to communicate like that is a worthwhile
skill to learn, imho.

BTW, you don't need a web site to promote CBMall. You
are in fact buying a web site when you purchase a CBMall.
If you wanted to you could skip building a site and go
directly to promoting your CBMall via ezine ads, pay
per click advertising etc.

If you can't afford to buy ads, you can write articles and
submit them to sites like http://www.articlecity.com/

Jim Edwards has a great book on this at www.turnwordsintotraffic.com.
If you worked at it over time you could build a solid traffic
stream to your CBMall without spending any money at all.

At the least you can list your CBMall URL in your email
and post signature.

You could say CBMall is a good solution for those
who are just getting started and want to move
directly in to promoting a site without learning
html, search engine positioning and so on.

Maybe your instinct to buy CBmall was not a bad
one, you just need to explore it further and really
see how it might work out for you.

Best of luck!

Phil
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:04 pm
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Becky,

You mentioned you can't afford to buy SBI right now, but are
doing all the research you can.

The SBI action guide is free and it's full of useful information.

I don't remember how to get the guide without buying SBI
but I know it's possible because I did it at one time.

If interested you might jump over to the SBI section of
this forum, somewhere there is sure to know.

Phil
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:33 pm
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Usually, people hold back because they're afraid of something. Like Charlie said..he was "frightened off".

Jon, if I'd closed my eyes then, I'd have thought that was my "doctor" speaking. Laughing

It's true... I was "frightened" of buying into another idea that wouldn't deserve priority over the other 648 ideas I'm stuggling to get to grips with at the moment - and as a result would never get off the drawing point.

Come to think of it, "terrified" would have been a better choice of word. Wink

Becky wrote:
I am very "fresh" at building, and though I had TONS of non-stop ideas BEFORE I actually set to working on a site, being confronted with all that blank space in front of me somehow causes everything I was going to do and write about to dry up!

I know the feeling - but it needn't be too bad.

Try keeping track of your ideas by writing them down, if you don't already. Then you can jump start your brain if needed via a quick re-read. On the subject of actual "writer's block", just write the first thing that comes into your head, and keep going.

That's what I do. Rolling Eyes Wink

Resist the temptation to edit too soon, just let it flow. You see you've actually got two brains (even physically), but they don't always know the meaning of teamwork. Creativity and criticism don't mix.

Becky wrote:
Since I have never created a website before, I am using a Homestead Gold package. (Not quite at the point yet where I want to hand-code all my pages.)

Grab a book on learning HTML and at the very least learn how to make some simple changes yourself. There is a huge difference between being unable to hand code a page from scratch and being unable to make simple manual changes to an existing page. If you can't do the latter, you are asking for trouble in my view.

And do you know the best bit... it's easy. Don't let anyone blind you with science on this.

Becky wrote:
I am looking at this as my getting-my-feet-wet venture, and I know I'm making TONS of mistakes, but that's how I'll learn what to do differently on my next site!

That's a good approach, I think. Just remember making mistakes can get addictive. Wink

Have fun,
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:43 pm
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Sorry Phil, I missed your posts...

Phil Tanny wrote:
I do think you might want to at least stay on the CBMall
mailing list because Jeff Mulligan (i think that's his name)
knows what he's doing and it can be instructive to watch
how he communicates with his users.

That's an excellent point.

When it comes to marketers, pick a successful example, then to "do what they do, not what they say."

Cheers,
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:08 pm
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Hello everyone,

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The SBI action guide is free and it's full of useful information.

I don't remember how to get the guide without buying SBI
but I know it's possible because I did it at one time.


For Becky and Phil,

I have a link to the free SBI Action Guide (and the other free Sitesell guides) at my blog, listed in my sig below. If anyone is interested in checking out the materials.

Ken is a prolific writer, and his information is first rate, even in his free products. However, his prolific use of "Sidebars" and promotions of his other products can make it difficult to focus on his material. (Especially for an ADD poster child like me!)

If you can get past that stuff, there is really good information contained inside. Smile

Also, regarding CBMall, I've wanted to participate in that program from the moment it came out. But I could never find a way to do it until I started to lay out the blueprint for my new blog site.

It brought me to a stunning realization....

Do most of us have it backwards?

What I mean is, many of us (myself included) start out by looking for affiliate programs, then try to figure out how we can make money with them. I'm beginning to understand that the proper way to do this is to put together a design for a website first, then go out and find affiliate programs that are *appropriate* for the direction your site will take.

It's such a simple distinction, but it has made all the difference in the world for me in the past few months. The change is so subtle, that I didn't even realize on a conscious level that I had made that change until I saw this thread. It was at that point that the light went on, and I just had to share! Wink

Becky, off the top of my head, the best way I can think of for you to possibly promote CBMall would be to build a content site devoted to educating people about the value of digitial products and ultra-specific "How-to" books. Then you sprinkle in links to your CBMall for people to check out.

Also, my blog does chronicle the building of a mini-content site using SBI, but the lessons taught in there will work for any mini-content site, built without SBI too.

(Geez, I hope this doesn't sound like a promo. I don't mean it to be. Wally, feel free to edit away if I've crossed the line. My blog won't really get started until December anyway. I don't care if I make a penny from it. I'm just really excited about using it as a tool to help others.) Smile

Take care!
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:14 pm
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I'm beginning to understand that the proper way to do this is to put together a design for a website first, then go out and find affiliate programs that are *appropriate* for the direction your site will take.


I'm wrestling with this one as well. What I'd really like to do is liberate maximum enthusiasm by diving in to topics that excite me. You know, up til 3am every night making sites, and it feels like fun, not work.

However, if the goal is income, I think you have to at least do a basic search for affiliate programs and other income sources before you dive in on the content. Some of the best topics (for me) are ones that would be mighty hard to make money on...

Mike Long wrote:

Becky, off the top of my head, the best way I can think of for you to possibly promote CBMall would be to build a content site devoted to educating people about the value of digitial products and ultra-specific "How-to" books.


You can link to specific pages within the CBMall, so you can really connect many different kinds of topics to the mall with good targetting. And, like I said above, those who aren't ready to make a web site can still jump right in promoting their CBMall by other methods.

Phil
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However, if the goal is income, I think you have to at least do a basic search for affiliate programs and other income sources before you dive in on the content. Some of the best topics (for me) are ones that would be mighty hard to make money on...


Thanks for mentioning that. You're absolutely right. A cursory look through places like CJ, Linkshare and BeFree are a good place to start to make sure that at least *something* is offered in the way of an affiliate program for your area of interest.

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