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Phil Tanny
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:12 pm
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Not sure if this is useful info for anyone else, but just in case I thought I'd report one of my sites was declined for Adsense today.
Here's the site: http://easy-hits.com
Here's Google's explanation:
--BEGIN QUOTE
"Your website is a type of website that we do not currently
accept into our program. Such websites include, but are not limited
to, chat sites, personal pages, search engines, sites that contain
predominately copyrighted material, and sites that drive traffic
through cybersquatting."
--END QUOTE
I don't really see an opportunity for appeal here so I guess I'll forget it and move on unless someone has another suggestion.
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esteneker
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:50 pm
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Phil,
As I see it, most information is directly for promoting the service. In fact, isn't it ALL sales? That's probably the reason for the decline.
BTW, I feel that Adsense would only dilute your Most Wanted Response here...
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--BEGIN QUOTE
"Your website is a type of website that we do not currently
accept into our program. Such websites include, but are not limited
to, chat sites, personal pages, search engines, sites that contain
predominately copyrighted material, and sites that drive traffic
through cybersquatting."
--END QUOTE
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I haven't heard the term, who knows what "cybersquating" is?
Regards,
Erwin.
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Phil Tanny
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:47 pm
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Hi Erwin,
Thanks for your reply. Actually there is nothing for sale on the site, it's a free service. Also there are 40+ pages of webmastering tutorials. The site has more pure useful non-commercial content than many that have been accepted.
It is hard to determine what exactly Google doesn't like about the site from their obscure reply, but my read is they have some objection to the purpose of the site, thus I don't really see a remedy other than just submit another site for their review.
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Debs
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:16 am
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All your articles are Will Bontrager's copyright materials. You need original content for Adsense, not just content that's already available somewhere else.
Syndicated articles are nice, within reason. But building an entire site around them isn't what Google is looking for.
Just my 2 cents,
Debs
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Charlie
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:34 am
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Hello Phil.
| Phil Tanny wrote: | | Thanks for your reply. Actually there is nothing for sale on the site, it's a free service. |
I'm certainly no expert on Adsense, but I think Google might not distinguish between paid and "free" products or services.
Besides, isn't it true that nothing in life is free", anyway? 
Seriously, I think Debs has hit the nail on the head (ouch) when she mentions Will B's content. It isn't just a question of value, but uniqueness too. Google has a constant struggle trying to stay top of the searchers pops.
Cheers,
Charlie.
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Phil Tanny
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:33 pm
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Hi guys,
Thanks for your comments. Yes, I agree, I think using Will's articles is probably one of the issues for Google.
I'm not sure why it should matter whether a visitor reads these articles on my site, Will's, or someone else's. They are either useful articles, or they're not. You know, why should it matter to the Adwords advertiser whether their ads appear over these articles on my site or Wills? But anyway, that's just my logic. I agree that, for whatever reason, these articles are likely a problem for Google.
Actually there is unique content, written by me, within the accounts. I could bring it forward but I don't think that would solve the problem. I think Google has a problem with the purpose of the site. Don't ask me what that problem is exactly, the decline notice doesn't make it clear, but it does seem to indicate something beyond the unique content issue.
Anyway, who cares really. Google is not the only vendor I can promote. I'll just work a bit harder and find other merchants who are more enthusiastic about having me promote their services.
Thanks again for your insights!
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Charlie
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:23 pm
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| Phil Tanny wrote: | | I'm not sure why it should matter whether a visitor reads these articles on my site, Will's, or someone else's. They are either useful articles, or they're not. You know, why should it matter to the Adwords advertiser whether their ads appear over these articles on my site or Wills? But anyway, that's just my logic. |
No, it's my logic, too... but unfortunatelty not Google's, by the look of it!
| Phil Tanny wrote: | | Actually there is unique content, written by me, within the accounts. I could bring it forward but I don't think that would solve the problem. I think Google has a problem with the purpose of the site. Don't ask me what that problem is exactly, the decline notice doesn't make it clear, but it does seem to indicate something beyond the unique content issue. |
Maybe it's a question of emphasis or initial impression?
The home page is essentially a sales page, with a link to the contents index. First impressions are important.
Maybe they'd be happy if it were the other way around - a content-oriented home page, linking to your service's "sales page". Changing this might determine how much of an issue the "second hand" content really is. Only one way to find out...
All the best,
Charlie.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:15 pm
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| Phil Tanny wrote: | | Not sure if this is useful info for anyone else, but just in case I thought I'd report one of my sites was declined for Adsense today. |
I can't tell from the above whether this was the first site you have submitted to AdSense or whether you already have AdSense account (s) and were attempting to add another.
If the latter, and if AdSense approved the site, it seems to me you would be in violation of the AdSense Terms against having more than one account. If they had of discovered this later, you could have lost your entire AdSense "empire."
If instead you don't already have an AdSense account, ignore this post.
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Yaron
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:07 pm
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Hi Phil.
I looked at your site, and here are some theories and suggestions I have.
From what I've heard, and my personal experience with AdSense, I believe that AdSense approval is first done by an automated bot that evaluates your site. If the bot thinks your site is good, you're in, and if it's a border line case, you're then evaluated by a human, who is naturally capable of being much more picky than any automated program. You do not want to build a site that'll get to be seen by a human AdSense reviewer, so your site must be bot/spider friendly. This is essentially the same as being search engine friendly, which you'll need to be anyway if you want search engine traffic.
The navigation drop down list is your most glaring error. It is JavaScript generated, and therefore its links are not seen by spiders at all. So as far as the AdSense bot is concerned, your site is nothing more but your home page, signup pages, and the 7 Easy-Hits Tour pages. The signup pages have no significant content so they don't really count. The last pages in the tour are deeply nested within your site, so the bot might not have reached them. So essentially what the AdSense bot saw is about 5 pages of content, which is most likely not enough content for approval.
At this point the bot might have rejected you right away, or handed you off to a human reviewer. If you got rejected within a couple of hours, you were most likely rejected by the bot.
So in conclusion, you need better navigation with actual <a> tags within the HTML, and also a site map page.
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Phil Tanny
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:44 pm
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Thanks Yaron, great suggestions, appreciate it. I love those drop down navigate boxes for their tidiness, but you're right, I need a site map too.
Sort of on this subject:
Here's a link any one can use to see which pages of your site are indexed by Google. Replace "yourdomain" with your own domain.
http://www.google.com/search?q=yourdomain.com+site:http://yourdomain.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:29 am
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| I have a 2 page website that was approved in 24 hours. One page is a links/resources page with about 8 links, and the other/main page is set up to promote cell phones. It consists of a large graphic and 2 paragraphs of content, very similar to Phil Wiley's cell phone site. I was truly surprised when it was approved. |
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Yaron
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:45 pm
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| Phil Tanny wrote: | Thanks Yaron, great suggestions, appreciate it.
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You're welcome.
Yes, this query (adopted to your web site) reveals that the only content pages Google got to was the tour pages.
This type of query actually searches all pages on a yourdomain.com site that contain the word "yourdomain.com" on them. For sites that have their domain name on every page, it'll show all pages.
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:26 am
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| Anonymous wrote: | | I have a 2 page website that was approved in 24 hours. One page is a links/resources page with about 8 links, and the other/main page is set up to promote cell phones. It consists of a large graphic and 2 paragraphs of content, very similar to Phil Wiley's cell phone site. I was truly surprised when it was approved. |
Forgot to mention that I only get about 50 visitors per month at this site. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:14 pm
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Earlier in this thread we theorized that one of the reasons my site didn't get accepted for AdSense is that most of the articles on my site are written by another person, the honorable Perl god, Will Bontrager.
Here's a site whose entire purpose is publishing articles by other people:
http://www.articlecity.com/
The have AdSense all over their site. So either they slipped through the AdSense censors somehow, or we don't understand Google's policy on this issue. Or the policy changes from day to day, or other, etc.
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