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Learner_Affiliate · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Hi,

I was wondering if JM's method mean we have to keep writing articles non-stop. Personally, i feel that it is a little tedious if you just keep on writing. I mean for your whole life? if you are doing this full time.

Why i say this because if you have written a well optimise article and let say it rank no2 or no1 in google. After a few weeks later, you are not rank no1, you tend to slips as there are even better optimized page to get that top rank. So i see it as a business that you just have to keep writing and sorry to say , i feel that it is a little un-free to do it this way.

What if you have 10 to 20 sites and yes incomes comes in, but you are still being lock up in writing articles and keep yourself rank higher. It is like fighting to get a top rank by writing articles. Others will see what make up a top rank article and will sure to improve on it and pple will keep on doing this way. i do not see any freedom in that.

i feel kind of discourage when i become aware of it.

varunpratap · Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 534

umm well when u start to make money then u can easily outsource article writing and add it once a month to ur site... I think that Martell would do.. or he would squeeze the juice completely out of one market n on to next...
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Learner_Affiliate · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

The problem is, you have to keep mainataining your site and it isn't that what i preceive as freedom as it is. Yes, you are working in your home, but still, you are not totally free. You have to keep a look out of your rankings, your articles, check out on the better optimized page. It is just the same as being an employee, you keep on working.

Even if you outsource your articles writing to others, you are still have to be there to ensure that your sites (or articles) are viable.

I just feel that it isn't the kind of freedom that i hope for or am i too naive.

and you have to do everything youself and didn't employ anyone to help you in certain part of the process especially when you are just starting out.

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Learner_Affiliate · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Hi Robert and John,

Yes, i agree with your explanation in terms of freedom, it is - you are enjoying what you are doing. At the moment, i am working hard to save up in order to marry my oversea gf. i don't work for pple and work as a private tutor for a living. i was trying to have any internet biz to start up so i can stay with her in her own country. i cannot work there because i do not know their foreign language in terms of read and write. Internet biz is the only choice that i have to go for now. But to know that income from affilaite does not comes in 6 months to a year really discourage me and yet i have to keep on writing articles after articles.

i dun mind to write but have to keep on writing as long as i am earning from affiliates, i guess i have not put my action forward so i am not in the position to know if i am ok with it until i have done it. But it really dun sound too appealing to me to keep on writing until i stop doing affiliate. Maybe when i plan to start out something, i didn't have a thought of the maintainance part. How navie i am. haha

cruthin · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 71 Location: Japan

Hello Learner Affiliate,

The fact that you are doing your own research beforehand is a positive sign - and doesn't come across as naiive at all.

There are probably (IMHO) two killers for a small business...and your posts suggest to me that you are already beginning to address them in your mind.

i-neglect of cash flow management.

ii-not having a living (i.e. updated) business plan.

True passive income?
Hmmm...short of an unexpected windfall...many self-made folks end up finding that working "hard" (at play?) enables them to eventually accumulate enough not to have to work any more.

For example, One direct marketer I know of in UK decided that 1,000,000 sterling invested legally overseas would generate enough monthly investment income to give him financial independence.

However, once achieved, he never stopped working and branched out into all sorts of info products and continues to enjoy making (and spending) good money.
As per Canfield's Success principles...find your passion!
A book well worth reading and then taking the smallest of actions on 1 or more of the principles.

Finally, in your fiance's country if English is spoken as a 2nd language (or people study it as an international business language), might there be some opportunities to generate "day-job" income while you figure out what to do?

Best of luck to you!
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AllanGardyne · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject:

Learner_Affiliate, you make some excellent points and ask some excellent questions.

It does take an extraordinary amount of research and writing to produce 90 websites the way James Martell does. But then he makes an extraordinary income, and has a jolly good lifestyle, too.

The average person doesn't have the patience and persistence to do what he has done. How far you go along his path is entirely up to you.

Once I've written an article, I rarely tweak it to try to make it rank higher. Usually, the only reason I change an article is to update the information.

You need to think very carefully about this, and I'm glad to see you are. If you choose a topic like reviewing computer gear, you'll have to rewrite and update your material very frequently. If you choose a topic like rugs or teeth whitening, you'll have to update much less frequently.

Another example: Starting a niche directory may seem an attractive idea, but in many industries you'll quickly find that it's bit like owning a corner shop. You have to work all hours just to keep the business running.

Yesterday I saw a page someone had created listing blogs owned by CEOs. Wow! Imagine the frequent updating you'd have to do on that page! So choose your niche carefully or hire a meticulous person to do your updating for you (Thanks, Glennys, you're wonderful!).

One of the good things about Internet marketing is that you can design your own business. You can choose what you do. Perhaps you'll eventually write a report, sell it on your site, and have 100 or 1,000 affiliates promoting your report for you. Then you might start attending Internet conferences, chatting up super affiliates and offering them special high commissions.

Once you have a reasonable amount of good content on your site, you might choose to concentrate on marketing, participating in email discussion lists in that industry, and on forums, and writing articles for other websites and newsletters. There are dozens or hundreds of ways to get links to your site.

You'll find that this is time well spent, because every new link you get to your site in a small way helps all your pages rank higher. The more good links you get, the easier it is to get rankings for each new article you write.
Success breeeds success.

You might build a small web site and then spend most of your time visting forums and promoting it in your signature. I don't think it's the most effective use of your time, but some people enjoy doing that.

You might launch a newsletter, which helps remind people that your site exists, and helps you get repeat sales. Your newsletter might become so popular and successful that you turn into a newsletter publisher.

You might concentrate on two-tier programs, doing joint ventures, persuading other affiliates to do the work.

You might concentrate on lifetime commissions, so that you're building a business that will pay your recurring commissions for years.

You might start a blog use it to promote your site.

The more you do of this stuff, the easier it gets. After a while you get a sort of snowball effect. You get known, so people interview you. That gives you nice publicity, so you get more interviews. People ask you to write chapters in their books, people ask you to write books, speak at conferences, and so on...

You might decide that doing things the James Martell way is just the start of your online marketing education. A good, solid grounding, but just the start. It's like serving an apprenticeship.

After you've had some success, you might outsource most of the work, or you might hire a strong core of really talented people who go on to do truly amazing things.

You might do most of the things I've described, some of them, or none. You might find a better path. It's up to you. It's your choice.

When I started in affiliate marketing, my aims were very modest. All I was hoping for was enough money to replace what I was earning in my part-time job. I never imagined that Joanna and I would end up owning homes in two countries and employing people.

There are almost limitless opportunities. Have fun.

But first of all, you have to take the first step. That's the hardest part.
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Learner_Affiliate · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Yes Allan,

i have a talk with my friend last night on my shocking awareness of having maintainance in business is equally important as starting up or even more important. AS you have said it well, i will still go on this path as i need to start somewhere and it is just a coincidence that i stumple upon JM 's book. i can start anywhere and i guess i just start from here to learn more about online biz. i have a gal to marry and a future to plan so that leaves me no other choice. I still loves the idea of having an online biz, it is just that i am still absorbing the shock i have encountered.

Most of the things that you have said , i have thought it through and even discuss with my friend. oh well... i just have to face it... Laughing

robertb · Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1838 Location: Columbus, OH

JustBuildIt · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 12

robertb · Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1838 Location: Columbus, OH

Jeremy · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 443 Location: New York

As James says in the Buzz once you build a foundation
of articles, you can ease up a bit. With adsense it is easy
to make $10 a day minimum per site. The only thing that takes
alot of time is if you write your own articles.

I guess in any business, you need to maintain it
to some degree. From seminars I've went to
your business is your working income, then
you have to create passive income, when that
exceeds your expenses, your Financially Free. Very Happy

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